The Loss of the
Edmund Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Hunhoff
Location: Burbank, Il
Date: 11/10/2015
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I can't believe that it has been 40 years today that the good ship and crew passed into eternity. I hope and pray that time and God has given them peace. The crews of the Ford and the Anderson did a heroic effort in searching for survivors in that storm. I salute there fidelity to duty.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michelle Dean
Location: Prudenville, MI
Date: 11/7/2015

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I have always remembered the Edmund Fitzgerald. It was something no one thought could happen with the technology of the time. God Bless the families of the lost souls and peace be you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: shelly
Location: ontirio mi
Date: 11/5/2015

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This is so sad. shows you how short life really is.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dan
Location: weston, ma
Date: 11/3/2015

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from what i've read, the shoal and a previous makeshift fix of a major structural problem combined to cause the sinking. i'm not sure either one by itself would have done it that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dawn Johnson
Location: Weeki Wachee, Florida
Date: 11/2/2015

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I just wanted to take this time to honor the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald and remember them 40 years later. They will not be forgotten. God Bless the families and the crew. My husband is a shrimper and not a day goes by that I dont pray for his safe return every day. My heart goes out to all of the lives who were touched by the passing of these men and all the lives lost since. God Bless each and every single one.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeffrey Estes
Location: Hamilton ont canada
Date: 10/20/2015

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it was in the middle of two waves and it broke in two


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tim Wilson
Location: South Carolina
Date: 10/14/2015

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As Capt. Cooper and the crew of the Arthur M. Anderson were the only ones on the scene and the only witnesses that night, I firmly agree with Capt. Cooper that the Edmund Fitzgerald struck bottom at the 6 fathom shoal area. The Anderson was only 10 miles to rear of the Fitz. and had her on radar the whole tome before she sank... If you notice that her mid section is almost destroyed, One could easily conclude that the damage came from bottoming out and slowly lost integrity...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mick Blackwell
Location: Vista, CA
Date: 9/28/2015

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Am always deeply moved by this story and have questions I've not seen addressed to date. Can't help but suspect there's a cover-up in it somewhere especially when Ronnie Roman and the captain of the Seabird made the statements they did about the Fitz having been abused and a loose keel.....not to mention being overloaded multiple times over its lifespan.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mountain
Location: pennsylvania
Date: 8/15/2015

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sorry for all of the families that lost their dads and husbands.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Terrence A. Connell
Location: Levittown
Date: 6/26/2015

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I always thought it haunting and mysterious.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dawn Murphy
Location: Lockport ny
Date: 6/14/2015

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I remember this like it was yesterday.I won't forget any of you living relatives or those that died.May you all find peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob
Location: Buffalo,NY
Date: 6/14/2015

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The sea may give up her dead but Lake Gitchee Gumee (Lake Superior) as the old maritime axiom goes will never give up her dead.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob
Location: Buffalo,NY
Date: 6/13/2015

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No Max the bow section of the Fitz is not in a museum,it's on the bottom of Lake Superior.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob
Location: Buffalo,NY
Date: 6/13/2015

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For those of you that don't realize it,the hulk of the Fitzgerald,lies in 533 feet of water in Lake Superior,17 miles northwest of Whitefish Bay. She is in Canadian Waters off of Coppermine Point,Ontario. As this was track that she was following when she sank.Both her and the Anderson were on the same track along the Canadian shoreline. As for that one comment.The Edmund Fizgerald was leased by Columbia Transportation Division of Ogelbay Norton.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob
Location: Buffalo,NY
 98.117.179.113

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Living near two of the five Great Lakes, Erie is right on my doorstep as a matter of speaking and Ontario is not very far away. I firmly believe that shoaling is what caused the demise of the Fitzgerald. Even open hatches as is claimed,would not cause a ship to sink in a matter of seconds. There was no time for the crew to send an SOS and she nosedived ineffective hatch closure would have caused her sink amidships.I pray for the brave souls of her gallant crew of 29 that perished when she sank 533 feet to the bottom of Lake Superior.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: D. M. Dumin
Location: Connecticut
Date: 6/9/2015

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It will be 40 years in November. I have no connection to the area or the crew and I remember as if it were yesterday. If I remember so clearly, I am certain that the friends, family, residents of the Great Lakes area and the brave and honorable officers and crew of the freighters everywhere remember. Always remembered. Always honored. Clear skies, calm seas and much thanks to all those who work the ships.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Thomas Goudie
Location: Yuba City, Ca.
Date: 5/22/2015

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After forty years, I still can not get this loss out of my mind. I listen to Gordon Lightfoot's account of this tragedy constantly as I am now. My heart goes out to the families for their loss. God Bless you all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Phillip Wilding
Location: Sydney Australia
Date: 5/1/2015

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I remember the captain noted damage to the handrail which indicated warping of the superstructure. The hull was definitely overloaded be it the water entering through overloaded leaky warped hatches and other source ballast tank vents whatever! The setting new records of cargo carried could not have helped and weather took its toll. Larger waves with longer pitch put more bending stress on the hull and the ship would have broken in two with the front section still attached and pulling the aft after it so quickly that the crew couldn't escape. It would have been impossible and far too dangerous to asses the complete damage on deck during the storm. The ship was doomed the moment it started taking on water.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Denis P
Location: Reno, Nv
Date: 4/22/2015

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Such a tragic loss that was unnecessary. I worked at American Ship building in the early 70's maintaining lake freighters doing hull repair. I never worked on the " Fitz" but from what I saw working on like aged ships the amount of rust build up inside the ares between the outer and inner hulls scared me. 1 inch plate rusted 40% on each side on the inside from being flooded when the ship was empty.I wondered how it could ever hold together.I don't buy the theory of the hatch covers failing. My feelings is the length of the Fitz and the period of time between the 25 foot plus waves caused a void between the swells,which momentarily caused a unsupported void under the bottom of the hull and a fracture occurred letting water enter the cargo hull.The fracture continued to expand til the the hull was totally compromised and the Fitz split into two. Like snapping a stick in two.This is just my opinion from what I observed from other ships I worked on


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeff K.
Location: Michigan
Date: 3/31/2015
 12.172.137.2

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May the crew rest in peace at the bottom of the fresh water sea of Superior .! Whitefish Point is such a wonderful memorial to the Fitz and all the lost......


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Pavlov the Mariner
Location: Volgograd
Date: 3/29/2015

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The Edmund Fitzgerald was actually sunk by a series of waves called the Three sisters phenomenon. The idea is that the ship is wracked by these giant waves one after another so it doesn't have the time to recover from each hit. This also explains why the ship sank so quickly without distress signals being heard.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: London Ontario
Date: 3/28/2015

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I was in highschool at the time in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario. A FRIEND AND I WERE OUT THAT NIGHT JUST HANGING AROUND AND I REMEMBER THE STROM HITTING AND THE WINDS WERE SO STRONG WE TRIED TO FALL BACKWARDS AND THE WINDS KEPT US UPRIGHT. IN MY 53 YEARS I HAVE NEVER AGAIN ENCOUNTERED A STORM WITH WINDS OF THAT STRENGTH.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: thom pyles
Location: toledo ohio
Date: 3/26/2015

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RIP GENTLEMAN AND MAY GOD BE WITH YOU. MAY WE NEVER FORGET YOUR SERVICE TO ONE AND ALL MAY YOUR MEMORY S OF YOU LIVE ON IN THE HEARTS OF YOUR LOVED ONE UNTIL YOU MEET AGAIN.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Kelly
Location: Oregon
Date: 2/4/2015

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I grew up in MN, played with magnets & taconite and visited Superior at around ten. That was my first look at ore boats. College saw me flying over Lake Michigan (Marquette Univ.) fairly often since my family was now living in PA. We often flew over ore carriers and I'd seen others in Milwaukee's harbor. I say this not as an engineer but rather as an old man who has studied ships enough to know ore carriers simply look too long to be safe in 35 ft. waves. Certainly the hatches leaked and exacerbated the problem but common sense says ore carriers are more creatures of lock size than examples of fine ship building.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: lynden
Location: Mansfield
Date: 1/29/2015

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Dad was 1st mate on the Fitz in 1963..Patrick mcdonald. .we spent many happy days on the Fitz as kids..


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: chris
Location: raleigh NC
Date: 1/29/2015

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I have photos of the Fitz and some sort of party. Maybe an insurance company that owned the ship. I also have a Christmas card of the ship that includes a name Chief Frank {unknown} anyone know a chief aboard the Fitz with the name Frank? thanks


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Billy Boy
Location: Charelotte, North Carolina
Date: 12/31/2014

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I was 17 years old when the emerald fitzgerald had the accident. I had a close friend that worked on that ship as a worker. He said the reason he resigned from the job was because the Captain was known to overload the ship with excessive coal ore every time they loaded up and he was told that this overload was TOO MUCH of a strain on this ship or any ship for that matter. My friend kept telling the captain to stop loading the ship down like that in case they are in a bad storm and that the ship could crack in half. The captain told him it might be better if he josh my friend would resign if he did not like it. Bingo look at what happened the emerald fitzgerald went down and she cracked in half like josh said because of the over weight cargo.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Youngstown
Date: 11/10/2014

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39 years now. I still feel the loss of my friend. I will never forget that day.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Karen Marden
Location: Sterling Heights, MI
Date: 11/10/2014

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Even though I have no direct connection to the crew of The Edmund Fitzgerald, I've always felt a special kinship to all those sailors on the seas, past and present. I dedicate the month of November every year to all those lost on the lakes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Alexander
Location: Traverse City
Date: 10/3/2014

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As a 2nd year engineering cadet at the Great Lakes Maritime Academy, I always know that this was a terrible time in the history of the Great Lakes. I also know that my chief engineer lost a great friend when the Fitzgerald was lost and that person was the deck cadet that was sailing on his sea project that year. Every time I think of the Fitz, I think that the next time that I go out to sail on a ship that it could be my last because the power of the Great Lakes is endless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: robert d
Location: chula vista ca
Date: 9/3/2014

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me and my dad in 1974 was at soo locks when the great ship edmund fitzgerald was going thur the locks wow what a site i see the crew and capt all happy and waving at us not knowing the fate to come may god rest them soul and ease the families


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Coleen Graham
Location: Biscoe,N.C.
Date: 7/23/2014

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Although I didn't know any of the men on the Edmund Fitzgerald,my heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones. This was truly a great tragedy.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bryant Backstrom
Location: Coon Rapids Minnesota
Date: 7/3/2014

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I'm obsessed with this wreck. I own over 20 books about the tragedy, I personally tracked down and interviewd former fitz crewmen. I doubt she hit the shoal. the Canadian government went out to the shoal a few days after the sinking not one broken rock, they were just as pointy as ever and no red paint skid markets from the Fitz. Besides if we follow Captin Bernie Coopers coordinates if the Fitzgerald he plotted, the Fitz would still have cleared the shoals with a mile to spare. The ship had a major hole in the bottom of it's keel that was repaired in the 74 winter with welds. I believe the ship was structurally weak. A former fitz crewman I talked to said that McSorley knew of the hole and the strange "wiggling motion" the ship would make when it was in rough weather. It's sister ship, the Arthur B Homer, stopped sailing soon after the Fitz disaster mostly because it was not structurally sea worthy. Stop thinking with emotion, and think with logic and look at the facts. Yes the wreck shows some hatch covers improperly fastened. But that alone couldn't have sunk her. She was wounded from a over worked structure and keel.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jeffrey
Location: hamilton ont
Date: 7/1/2014

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yes it was sad , that no bodies were ever found ,, as i know the power of that lake


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: william cain
Location: houston.tx
Date: 5/29/2014

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My thought is that the cargo shifted to on side the port or starboard side therefore taking on water


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michaela
Location: Central Lake MI
Date: 5/14/2014

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It's so sad that this ship went down when it could've been prevented. Because a former crewman said that it had bent like a diving board, and the keeper for it in the winter time said there was welds on the ship broke and it was flash welded instead of riveted which the riveting allows it to bend slightly in storms but with the welding it broke worse. So it basically took on so much water and nose dived and when it hit the bottom the ore had nowhere to go so it busted the boat up really bad and that's why around 200ft of the ship is in pieces on the bottom. At least the men didn't suffer and the death was quick instead of long and painful, so it seems. This was a tragedy that could've been prevented with proper repairs and maintenance. R.I.P. Men of the Fitzgerald you are gone but not forgotten! God be with the families and the souls of the ones lost in the Big Fitz!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Randy Berg
Location: Terre Haute Indiana
Date: 4/1/2014

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I am a U.S. Navy Vet and the Edmund Fitzgerald wreck and song by gordon lightfoot has always interested and amazed me ! Just wanted to post... RIP Captin & Crew !! God Bless ye All!!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jake
Location: Sault Ste Marie, MI
Date: 3/6/2014

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I believe she caught a big wave and bottomed out causing a crack which resulted in either a cargo shift, or the ship to split in two. I will never forget those lost, and will pass it on to all of the generations to come. As im sure all of you will do as well.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rich Stewart
Location: Algonac, Michigan
Date: 2/27/2014

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I grew up boating on Lake St. Clair and the St. Clair River. We loved to watch all the boats as they passed by Algonac and the head of Russell Island where the river splits into the North and South Channels. Seeing the Fitz was always a highlight of any freighter viewing season. I was fortunate enough to have seen it many, many times over the years and actually lapped it a few times by boat, awed by her strength and mass. I was profoundly saddened that day in November 1975 when she was lost with all hands. It hit me like some other tragedies have hit - Princess Diane being killed is another example. We are not all connected but it still hurts deeply. I have visited the museum at Whitefish Point a few times and every time I stand before the bell of the Fitzgerald, I am moved. Similarly, whenever I see the Arthur M. Anderson passing through the Blue Water area I am moved - uplifted -almost as if I am again in the presence of the Fitzgerald that I so looked forward to seeing plying her trade majestically and silently but with awesome presence.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian Luhrs
Location: Mesa
Date: 2/19/2014

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Although the consensus of opinion has it that she broke in two as the reason for sinking, I respectfully submit that she was in ONE piece and taking on water (Flooding) way before the break-up, so the flooding was the initial cause of her sinking. The breaking in two eventually happened because of the flooding and the overwhelming stresses placed on her hull allowing the vessel to tear itself apart. The taking on of the water was her demise, not breaking in two. That was the result of those unkind stress factors. The sinking would probably have occurred whether the vessel broke in two or not.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian Jacobs
Location: Tuscumbia, Alabama
Date: 2/18/2014

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My family and I were on a tour boat in the Souix Locks When the ship was headed back to pick up her final load. I have a photo of her in the lock, with 4 crew members on the deck. I would like someone to identify the men, and would be happy to send the photo to anyone or any institution interested.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: alicia
Location: ontiano
Date: 1/8/2014

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it is very sad that all 29 died


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Location: NW Indiana
Date: 1/6/2014

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I am lucky enough to work on the docks of the former Inland Steel currently known as arcelormittal Indiana Harbor.And I have heard great stories of this ship and the men who worked on it.Some unrepeatable but none the less great. These Men will not be forgotten believe that


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kirsten Gallagher
Location: Lansing michigan
Date: 12/31/2013

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My family is from Elbert and Frankfort and my dad is a retired railroad/batsmen for the Ann arbor railroad. He loaded unloaded and took the caricatures to Wisconsin and back.I was raised on hearing about the storms of the great lakes. My parents had friends on the fitz and worries that it might happen again to my dad. To this day he loves to tell the stories of his work and the member worked with. My mom and dad have told the stories and have passed it down to our children. The fitz will always be a part of my family.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ron
Location: justice il.
Date: 12/20/2013

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I WORKED ON THE FITZ FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS WELL CONSTRUCTED AND ENJOYED


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: charles a henderson
Location: pittsburgh
Date: 12/6/2013

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first of all my thoughts and condolesences to all 29 who where aboard , and their love ones. after watching and reading information I believe it was a combination of events that led up to the sinking. I believe the compartments where not sealed as well as thought the storm itself a very big factor, the pumps where not sufficient size to handle all the water. I do believe it split do shear weight of iron pellets and water


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Patrice Lehman
Location: Monroe
Date: 11/30/2013

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My father was a professional photographer here in Michigan & I inherited his collections. I have a photo of the William Clay Ford Freighter which was the ship of men who tried to rescue the Edmund Fitzgerald. The photo was taken from the Ambassador Bridge in 1961 as it was about to go under the bridge. Part of it is now on display on Belle Isle.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John west
Location: Wales uk
Date: 11/23/2013

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I have served in the Royal Navy and the merchant navy , sailed in a few places around the world , but let me tell you ,where the fitz went down would scare me on a winters day or night in a screaming gale , I take my hat off to all the seamen that sail that stretch of water , my thoughts go to all the crewmen on that ship , one day I will meet you in the great ocean in the sky , god rest you all , I will remember you till I meet you .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Eric Smentowski
Location: Mt Prospect, IL
Date: 11/13/2013

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The fitz going down is one the greatest disasters in Great Lakes history, maybe the greatest, certainly in our life times anyway. My grandpa new a guy who had an uncle on the fitz, so every Nov. 10 we head up to the U.P. for a silent stare into Gitchigumee, and wonder what might have been. I dread the deep waters of the Great Lakes, and admit I've been landlocked over my 43 years, never to venture away from the shore. Perhaps it's time to lose sight, but how I fear the deep blue, for it shall swallow me whole. My soul is not seaworthy. My craft sans sail. Anywho, this guy my grandpa knew may be full of beans, cause I never met him, and for alls I know, he could be spinning yarns, ya know?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: JAK
Location: Colorado
Date: 11/8/2013

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According to the Wm. Ratigan version of the Big Fitz wreck (Great Lakes Shipwrecks & Survivals, 1977), the first mate on the Anderson, which was trailing behind Big Fitz, made contact shortly after 7pm on Nov. 10th. Within minutes, the running lights of Big Fitz were gone as was her image on the radar scope of the Anderson. When the Carl D. Bradley broke in two in 1958, one of the two survivors (1st mate Fleming) said that when she broke in two, power to the bridge was lost, and the radio distress signals were immediately cutoff. Everyone was astonished at the speed of Big Fitz's disappearance. If she broke in two, radio communications would be immediately severed (assuming the same power reliance upon the stern and engine room as with the Bradley). With a slow leak through the hatches, the power would not be suddenly severed, and a "Mayday" would likely have been issued. If a shoal was hit, it would have needed to break Fitz in two for the same quick demise without a "Mayday" distress call.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim
Location: Beverly Hills, MI
Date: 11/6/2013

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I believe the evidence points to the ship having broken up at the surface. I have also read that the keel was tack welded rather than having been riveted like the older ships (which made it less flexible and more likely to break under stress). Furthermore, I understand that the ship was lengthened beyond the original design without any commensurate strengthening of the hull. I believe, therefore, that the design of the hull was fatally flawed and that the Edmund Fitzgerald was doomed to sink. Rough seas simply hastened the inevitable. I also think that that line of reasoning must have occurred to both Northwestern Mutual Life and Oglebay Norton. However, the focus was likely on avoiding liability and settling quickly and quietly with the families rather than on finding the truth.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott
Location: Onaway, MI
Date: 10/31/2013

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Interesting how God seems to use numbers in this world. I was 13 the night the Fitzgerald went down. My father died one week earlier at 49. Captain McSorely was 13 when my father was born. I believe Oliver Buck Champeua's (a crewman on the fitz) father died when he was 13 and like myself became the man of the house at that young age. But even more interesting is on the night of November 10, 1975 at age 13 I was awakened by the howling winds that produced the 35 foot waves that took the fitz down. The outside tv antena was screaming like I had never heard before or after that night. Now, the antena may have howled 29 times that night, not sure, I didn't think to count. But this I know for sure. The antena was designed for one purpose only. To help receive channel 29 from Traverse City, MI.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Don Hamel
Location: Bay City, MI
Date: 10/26/2013

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I remember I was 11 years old and watching the news about this. It was a huge event and everyone talked about it. I remember everyone being very sad for the families about there loss and we prayed at church for everyone.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: TF
Location: USA
Date: 10/22/2013

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The Big Fitz sank in Nov 1975. A thought cam e to me on the theory she sank because the hatch covers were improperly closed-in Nov 1913 the Henry B, Smith sailed in the big storm of Nov 1913-witness did see the Hatch covers on the Smith were not all closed-it sailed for about 20 minutes before being lost to view-before it apparently sank-the Fitz on the other hand sailed for nearly 5 hours-if the covers were not on -wouldn't she have gone down much earlier?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Taylor
Location: Benton,Maine
Date: 10/16/2013

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has the mystery of the ship wreck been solved yeto


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Al Ratini
Location: Newton Falls, Ohio
Date: 9/3/2013

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My dad, who is still alive ( age 90 ), was 2nd mate on the Fitz on her maiden voyage and 3 years afterwards. He told me many times that the ship's architect was on board and requested a specific way for the ship to be loaded. The 1st mate totally ignored the architect and loaded the ship heavy on both ends, sparse near midship. From that, my dad is sure that this constant pattern caused the ship to become stressed in the middle over the years, thereby causing her to break in two.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jacob Harwood
Location: Sault Ste. Marie MI
Date: 8/27/2013

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The tragedy of the Edmund Fitzgerald has fascinated me ever since I received my first book about it when I was 5 years old ("The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" by Frederick Stonehouse). Since then I have visited museums, watched documentaries, and pretty much talked and obsessed over the tragedy. I have recently watched a documentary about it featured on Dive Detectives, called "Rouge Wave". I feel they did a very good job of assessing and examining the evidence and may have put to rest the cause of the sinking, which the Daniel J. Morell also shares it's cause with: a massive wave that swept over the stern and broke her apart, causing her to sink in two sections. Comparisons done between the two vessels showed many similarities between the circumstances of their sinkings. I hope many people read this and are inspired to watch the program, and God bless the souls of the crewmen and the families they left behind.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Keith
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Date: 8/19/2013

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I just heard the song "The Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald" by Gordon Lightfoot. Every time I hear it, I feel so sorry for the brave men who lost their lives that night of November 10, 1975. I also feel for the members of the families who lost their loved ones. Their souls are in heaven and are watching over the waters of that great lake so this tragedy will never be repeated again. Rest in Peace all you 29 members and God Bless.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Katie A
Location: Ohio
Date: 7/28/2013

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I am saddened when I hear the song by Gordon Lightfoot. I keep those who died in my prayers and think of how difficult it was for their families and friends.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: greg
Location: cupertino Ca
Date: 6/5/2013

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Several years ago I had an interesting series of events surrounding the E F. I have never shared this to any degree with others. It started with a dream about the sinking of E F. Then my clock radio woke me to Gordon Lightfoots song about the sinking of the E F this was after the dream I had awaken and fell back to to sleep. The next morning my mother called to tell me our family was going to have a reunion on lake Superior near the site of the location of where the E F sunk. I do not understand why this all occurred or what it means. I am amazed by it. Blessings to all the families who lost loved ones. Greg


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Hobby Beich
Location: Munising, Michigan
Date: 5/13/2013

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I have spent 68 summers on Grand Island and have always been fascinated by the big ships. When the Fitz went down it was an awful loss, but Gordon Lightfoots song etched the loss in a whole generations mind. We have an event in Munising, Michigan among other things remembering the loss of the Fitz. One of our residents, Pete Benzing, has made a model of the ship and it is being raffled off at our event on June 13th at Mather auditorium in Munising. The executive director of the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum will be with us that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: cookie12
Date: 3/31/2013

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It is sad but is is big history!! I am fascinated by this


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian
Location: seattle, WA
Date: 3/20/2013

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It took on water from the hatches. then the cargo was taconite pellets. in which these soak up water. so the really ads a lot more wait. so its both answers to the survey. moving cargo and leaking hatchways.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Baltes
Location: Kettering
Date: 3/2/2013

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I got to see the Fitzgerald in the summer of 75.I was around 15 yrs old. I remember swimming and being under water when she passed through the soo locks; definately sounded louder and bigger than the other ore boats that went through.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Marcia
Location: Washington
Date: 2/20/2013

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I was in graduate school at the University of Minnesota when the Edmund Fitzgerald sank. Coming from a part of the country where one can see across most lakes, knowing a huge vessel like that went down was at first surprising. Many years have passed, but I still think about that storm on Lake Superior and about the ship and crew that were lost. It must have been horrific, and as I listen to Gordon Lightfoot's song still feel bad for 29 on board.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sherry
Location: NJ
Date: 2/17/2013

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God Bless all the lost In this horrific tragedy and all left behind who grieve for there loss. Never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rich
Location: Newport News, Virginia
Date: 2/10/2013

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I was living in Nova Scotia at the time and was young enough to learn of the sinking through Gordon Lightfoot's song. Just today I saw a documentary on the sinking on TV. This event still draws significant interest and I have to wonder how it is still able to given the daily barrage of tragedy provided by the media. My hunch is that the Lightfoot song has played a big part is preserving the tragedy for future generations to know.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Andrew
Location: White Lake, Michigan
Date: 12/19/2012

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I've thought about this for years and something came to my mind. What if there was more than one reason the Fitzgerald went down-for example, what if it hit a shoal and THEN broke in two?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mickey Hanson
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Date: 12/1/2012

Comments

I may be minority, but I don't feel the wreck should be permanently off-limits. Video and photos are fine, but nothing beats a first-hand look. They say the wreck is a graveyard. Well, so is the Morrell, Bradley, all ships lost in 1913 storm, just to name a few. Why isn't there a big effort to declare those wrecks off-limits as well. Also, I can't understand why the families would love to give crewmen a proper burial and yet, get upset when a body is found. To be fair to Fred Shannon, his permit required that he report any bodies found and to the best my knowledge never shared the footage with the media. Also, I had a chance to see the Lake Superior chart. The wreck is well within US water. so the Canadians really have no jursidiction. I could live with a mortarium of say 20 year, but to ban any future dives. NO!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: paul watson
Location: mi
Date: 11/26/2012

Comments

i belive that two could of happened, 1 they bottomed out, 2 they had a stress fracture in the hull, a list tells me the where building water in the forward cabin room, she got the water built up there and when thoses seas hit, they pushed her heavy bow underwater and the screws pushed her to the bottom, the crew never knew, they thought it was just a big wave, breaking up happened on the way down, bow down and cargo shifting twisted the already broken hull, and she snapped.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robin Hill
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Date: 11/21/2012

Comments

The month of November always brings to mind many brave souls over the years that have passed on. Obviously rememeberance day is a big one. What comes to my mind is the day before, November 10. Particularily 1975, when the brave crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald moved forward into what seemed to be "unusual" weather conditions. Being a prarie boy, I have not been on Lake Superior ever, but I have heard stories of how lake Winnipeg can change in an instant. I have been caught in a blinding blizzard on the highway, but when I think of the courage the crew of the Fitzgerald had to attempt to get to Whitefish bay is astonishing to me. Then the crew on the Anderson actually turned around and went back out there looking for survivors. I realize more and more everyday of how much nerve and faith it takes to be a ship's captain. I hope our Politicians have the same nerve that the captain's of these two ships had to get us through these "unusual" economic conditions.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Darrell Sears
Location: Pocatello, Idaho
Date: 11/19/2012

Comments

November 19th 2012 this year marked the 37th year since the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. For me, it started in California, I was up late that night working on a puzzle.I had a radio on the am station and I was listening to the AP network news and Dave Melendy was talking about a storm on Lake Superior and the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I was only 12 years old at the time and I couldn't imagine that an ore frighter of that size could sink in a storm of such magnitude. It made such an impression on me that I never forgot about the disaster, or, its aftermath. Fast foward 37 years. This journey that began on the night of November 10th/11th 1975, fianlly came to an end for me on the shores of Lake Superior, at the light house, at Whitefish Point, Michigan.on August 27th 2012. To the good ship and crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald, I say, rest in peace. The ship's bell in on display at the shipwreck museum at Whitfish Point and the battered life boat is located on board the Valley Camp at Sault Saint Marie, Michigan. Respectfully: Darrell Sears


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: eamon taylor
Location: dunlaoghaire,co dublin ireland
Date: 11/16/2012

Comments

i was listening to gordon lightfoot song the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald and then looked up this page a sad loss for all the familys involved gone but not forgotten,,,r.i.p


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Donna Lagergren
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario.
Date: 11/15/2012

Comments

I was 10 yrs of age when this horrific catastrophe had occurred. I thought it was very touching and memorable when they extracted the bell from the edmund fitzgerald and rang it 29 times for each life that was lost there. The song by Gordon Lightfoot is beautiful and the lyrics tell a story. I thought that the province of Ontario was very respectful to give the bell back to the state of Michigan. Very proud to be a Canadian indeed! May the lives rest in peace and my heart goes out to the families and relatives of the 29 men. Donna M. Lagergren Thunder Bay, Ontario


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Donna Lagergren
Location: Thunder Bay
Date: 11/13/2012

Comments

On November 10,1975 I was 10yrs of age and unfortunately I vaguely remember this horrific event in Lake superior history. I have watched various documentaries between now and then about the Edmund Fitzgerald and my hearts and prayers go out to the lives of the 29 men and their families. It touched my heart when I watched the bringing up of the bell and how the people of Ontario had given it to the state of Michigan in honor of the men who died on that November cold night. It was nice to hear the ringing of the bell for each life lost on the ship. I frequently listen to the memorable ballad from Gordon Lightfoot and enjoy listening to the acoustics and words which fit perfectly with the sinking of the ship. Thankyou Donna M. Lagergren Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tina fitzgerald
Location: northport ,wa
Date: 11/10/2012

Comments

its so hard to believe that its been 37 years since this tragedy, I remember it as if it were yesterday, my family knew many of those who went down that sad night, they will never be forgotten, rest in peace brave crew of 29,37 years and i will never forget you


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Seagirl
Location: Michigan
Date: 11/10/2012

Comments

Every November 10th I wear my special mariners cross to remember all the sailors lost at sea, especially The Edmund Fitzgerald. I've always been drawn to the many tales of those ships never to return with their crews and the families left behind. From The Great Lakes, God Bless all those who lost their lives at sea. We will never forget!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rick Leach
Location: Lake Orion, Mich
 NodinWind.
Date: 10/17/2012

Comments

Sailed the Great Lakes and many oceans over a period of 18 yrs. My best professional opinion says that the Fitzs suffered allot of stress on her hull then cracked with a heavy load in a very bad storm. I'm sure water seeped between the hatch cover and hatch combing when taking on water from the sea. I also believe being in a shallow area played a big part as well too. There are many speculations but the ones talking about it where not there that is why I say this is just my professional opinion.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Debi
Location: Fairview park Ohio
Date: 10/4/2012

Comments

I will always remember that day when I heard. My friend Bruce Hudson age 22 at the time was a Deckhand and going out for the last time...God Bless all of the crew who died that day and their family and friends. At this time of year I always reflect...I will always remember.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jean keough
Location: boston ,mass
Date: 9/16/2012

Comments

i was a teen in high school around the time this terrible event at sea happened... god,it was so very sad.. terrible ,,recently while on lunch break at work i came across the gordan lightfoot video to the song he wrote (the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald)well,my eyes were watering up a storm at work everyone was asking me are you crying whats wrong ? when i told a fellow co-worker no its just i was watching a music video on a historically true event that took place 1976 just got me upset so i said come here sit watch ..he was curious ..i showed him the music video with the live footage of that event the radio transmissions walter cronkite reporting the tragic event..the photos and names of the poor souls that went down with the edmund fitzgerald ..then said let me know how your feeling after you view it ..well he was shocked he is much younger then i and he was not familiar with the event.. after viewing we both felt like it had just happened all over again ...as if it were yesterday ..well for the rest of that night at work we both felt so somber and sad it was amazing how it affected us after seeing the video still feel sad for the loss the families had to endure back then .there children must have been brutal on them .. hope you dont mind i just felt the need to share my thoughts .. and to let you know they will never be forgotten god bless you all. : (


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: CindyLou
Location: reading,pa
 
Date: 9/12/2012

Comments

I was only 9 years old when the SS Fitzgerald sank, but I remember watching the news with my grandmother and when I saw the tears running down her face I knew even though I didn't understand that something terrible had happened. My grandmother never cried before in front of me. I was too young to understand at the time but now almost 40 years later I do. The Fitzgerald's sinking had reminded her of a cousin she had lost when the Titainic sank and she felt sorrow for those who had lost someone that day.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nichole
Location: Clare Michigan
Date: 8/30/2012

Comments

I was only three when the Fitzgerald sank, but my mom said she was in town the day they rang the bells for the men who perished in the sinking of the ship. She said the bells rang all day and that it was very sad. When I went on vacation to White Fish Point you can't help but think about the men who passed away and the family that they left behind, and think to your self my God Bless them all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bailey Nelson
Location: Madison, Oh
Date: 8/18/2012

Comments

The sinking of the "Fitz" just goes to show the power of the Great lakes and what they are capable of doing. My uncle currently is a senior deckhand on the freighter Manitowoc. And its scary just knowing what these waters are can do to bring down a massive ship like the Edmund Fitzjerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan C
Location: N.Y.
Date: 8/3/2012

Comments

I didn't know anybody on that ship. But i am a navy vet & I absolutely think gordon lightfoot got it perfect... God bless every person on board & there families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Phil Lettues
Location: Nova Scotia
Date: 7/24/2012

Comments

I was on Lake Erie that night for a couple of hrs only with Csl always prayers and best wishes to all of the family's of the lost god bless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Teresa
Location: Seattle, WA
Date: 7/12/2012

Comments

I have no connection to this tragedy, but I feel like I know this ship and crew somehow. I am fascinated with everything about it. Sorry for the loss of the men.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: noah marshall
Location: sapulpa okla
Date: 7/9/2012

Comments

Our visit to Whitefish Point was both amazing and sobering. Between the music by Gordon Lightfoot, the photos and memorabilia, ones feelings are definitely challenged. My thoughts and prayers to those who lost their loved ones to this compelling maritime tragedy. Very gripping.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Rich
Location: Broomall, Pa. 19008
Date: 6/27/2012

Comments

First of all,my condolences to the families of the crew of that boat. I have a documentary of that event, and according to that program, the hatch covers were not secured properly which caused the ship to break up and sink. This is according to that program. No disrespect is intended. Sincerely Robert F.Rich


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: H. Coton
Location: Florida
Date: 6/26/2012

Comments

From the review of old pics from the wreck site expiditions on tv specials and from documentaries. I must go my own way and agree on a more controversial cause,but I would go with the more supported theroy of a rouge wave.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dfix
Location: St. Paul, MN
Date: 6/17/2012

Comments

The loss of the Fitzgerald was the result of multiple factors that all added up to sudden disaster. 1. Weather. The most obvious cause. A hurricane force storm that created huge seas. 2. Waves. 20' to 30' waves. In addition there were "freak seas" documented in the area by other ships. 3. Structure of ship. Welded hull vs. riveted. Tends to fail suddenly and catastrophically. 4. Overload. The boat was designed for 18,000 ton load but the maximum load was increased over the years to 26,000 tons. This led to handling problems and increased over all wear and tear on the hull. Poor handling is also a symptom of overloading. She hard 2 minor collisions with locks. 5. Engineering. Overconfidence in construction and design. 6. Maintenance. Welds of the internal structures of the ship, specifically, stringers, ribs, and other structural components were broken or not done as specified by the architects. The ship had a funny wallowing action in heavy seas a a result. Reports of broken welds suppressed in the reports. Sister ship of EF taken out of service and scraped before it could be examined by forensic metallurgist. The normal life span of such a ship is 50 years. 7. Weather forecasting. Did not give warning of intensity or track of the storm. 8. Leaking hatch covers. They keep the water out of the hold. If you have a boat with 10 feet of freeboard in 20' to 30' seas you will have water on the deck and leaking into the hold if they are too weak or damaged. This decreases you buoyancy. 9. Cargo shifting. This happens when the cargo moves around in the holds. It is worsened by water in the cargo holds on this kind of ship as the water lubricates and helps move the cargo around (taconite pellets) and the ship pitches and rolls. 10. Freak Seas. A not well understood but well documented phenomenon where a wave or series of waves is 30% to 50% larger then the background seas. 11. Hit the reef. Multiple navigation aids out on the ship and on the shore. Was documented to be very close to reef by other ship in the area. Also, when going up and down in waves of this height. In the trough of the wave you get closer to the bottom then when it is calmer. Even a small bump can cause a big leak worsening the buoyancy problem. Put it all together and you have an overloaded, structurally unsound ship trying to navigate the worst storm of the century without navigation aids. She's leaking from the top side from hatches failing, gets too close to a reef and causes some bottom leaks. She is traveling downwind with seas coming over her stern. The freak seas that passed by the other ship hit her and bury the bow. The hatch covers cave in and she becomes bow heavy and pitches down. The fluidized cargo starts running forward and the ship heads bow first to the bottom. The middle section of the ship disintegrates either on the surface and/or when the bow strikes the bottom. At a speed of 13 knots (1300 feet per minute) it takes a 700 foot vessel less then a minute to sink. Conclusion: Everyone is guilty. And everyone is trying to cover it up.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian Dymond
Location: galt california
Date: 6/16/2012

Comments

I was born in Bellevue ohio fairly close to lake erie. My uncle Kenny and I were always fascinated with Great Lakes shipwrecks, especially the edmund fitzgerald. I believe the fitz was overwhelmed by a giant wave driving the bow into the bottom breaking it in half. God bless all the crew and their surviving families. Thank you for allowing me to comment. sincerely Brian Dymond


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nancy Hausauer
Location: Beulah ND
Date: 5/19/2012

Comments

Metal has to be severely damaged, which then stresses, before it can break apart. The load of taconite and subsequent water taken on stressed the freighter. The debris field of 170 feet supports that theory.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Greg Hensley
Location: Crawfordville Fl
Date: 5/6/2012

Comments

Riding home with my wife tonight we heard the song over the radio and it brought back a lot of memories. I was 16 when the Edmond Fitzgerald sank I grew up in Ypsilanti Mi and would see big ships like this when we would go to Detroit. So sad even today still, my sympathy to all the family's


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rex Owens
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Date: 4/3/2012

Comments

A Great loss for everyone!, God Bless their families, and all those that knew and worked with them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: james bertino
Location: Merrillvile,In
Date: 3/29/2012

Comments

It was last October and I was working at inland steel's plant 4 inspection table on the far end of the building by the canal.When the bells went off on the draw bridge and went out to see what it was. At first I couldn't see passed the dog wood trees that was growing along the fence. But finally I got pass them and saw this long ship passing. It didn't make a sound just a few people on deck washing it down from the off loading. You could tell,you could almost see the props breaking water as it went by. But couldn't see what the name was. Finally as it went by I saw the name,I said to myself who would name just a ship unless it was a big shot from big firm.Less then a week later it was storming here when I look at my tv and Harry reasoner reported a ship disappearing on the lakes. It was the Edmund Fitzgerald and it has haunted me ever since


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Karen Ensign-Letchworth
Location: Duluth, Minnesota
Date: 3/23/2012

Comments

My Uncle, Bill Rude, and my (at the time) future Grandfather-in-law, Chester Carroll, had both worked on the Fitz prior to its demise. I had the honor of being aboard once as a small child. I was 10 when the Fitz sank, and I will never forget hearing about it. It is still haunting. My heart goes out to those brave men who died that night, and their families. It could have been our family, but as fate had it, it wasn't. I love the Gordon Lightfoot song - always will. Never forget these brave men. This is not a glorious job, but we need and appreciate them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Alvey
Location: Chippewa Lake OH
Date: 3/7/2012

Comments

For 37 years I have had an idea for yet another contributing factor resulting in the tragic loss of the "Fitz", that I have not yet seen mentioned, which involves the design of the ballast pump system. I questioned the design while reviewing the ballast pump systems design for the yet to be built last 4 ore carriers. I was told that the design was standard practice. Should water back flow through the ballast pump discharges, you just turn on the pumps - no check valves were required. What happens if the electrical system isn,t working?, I asked. There's more to the story as it applies to me, and the pump contract I was trying to negotiate, but the question remains if ballast pump failure didn't add to the other factors.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: laura rolandelli coln
Location: atlanta georgia
Date: 12/20/2011

Comments

in memory of Bruce Hudson, deck hand, former high school classmate: he endures in history and continues on in our remembrance of him.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: carol kinner
Location: Hamilton,Ohio
Date: 11/29/2011

Comments

I was only 12 when this happened. I remember watching it on tv it was and still is very sad. When ever I hear the song by Gordon Lightfoot I can see the news reports as if it was yesterday.May you all Rest In Peace.Thoughts and prayers to the families of the crew and Maritime Cadet who lost thier life on the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Len Saueracker
Location: Ottawa,Ont,
Date: 11/21/2011

Comments

The legend lives on an the chipawa, down on the great lake they call it chigomie, superior they said never gives up her dead,when the gales November turn gloomy. with a load of iron ore twenty six thousand tones more then the great ship said empty


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Min. Roy Jordan
Location: Youngstown, OH
Date: 11/18/2011

Comments

The Sinking Of The Fitz, Was A Sad Ending,To The Promising Career Of A Great Ship ! When I'm In Ashtabula, I Sit At Walnut Beach,& Look Out On "Lady Erie", To Watch Ships Pass, Praying We Never Have Another Shipwreck, Of This Magnitude Ever Again, On The Great Lakes ! My Prayers Go Out To,The Families,& Friends Of The Captain,& Crew Of, The Edmund Fitzgerald ! Lord,Give Peace,& Comfort To The Family,& Friends Of All We've Lost To These Lakes,Keep The Souls, Of The Sailors In Your Loving Embrace,& Hidden In Your Glory, In The Name Of Jesus, Amen !


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dennis Freeland
Location: Gladstone, Miichigan
Date: 11/10/2011

Comments

In 1971, I boarded on deck of the Edmond Fitzgerald to ask for a job. I was fresh out of High School, and looking for work. I saw the captain, and he told me that I needed a union card to work there, otherwise, I'd never be considered. I was 18 years old then. Now, I'm 58, but I still remember that day clearly. When I heard that the ship sunk, I was in the military, overseas. I teared up to think that I could've been one of the 29 guys who died that day. My heart goes out to the families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Green
Location: Ontario
Date: 11/10/2011

Comments

I always remember this day with a certain amount of sadness. I remember where I was and the storm that took the lives of 29 brave souls ........rest in peace .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Green
Location: Ontario
Date: 11/10/2011
 74.198.164.1

Comments

I always remember this day with a certain amount of sadness. I remember where I was and the storm that took the lives of 29 brave souls ........rest in peace .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ~laurel
Location: southfield, michigan
Date: 11/9/2011
 

Comments

Before I write what I believe doomed her, I would like to comment on The #1 Lifeboat is silently on display on the Valley Camp Ore Boat turned museum, St. Ignace Michigan. My belief as she passed to close to the Canadian shoreline near Caribou Island the swells were so large she bottomed out, cracked and took on water further out in deep water. Whatever took her down many of us will remember that day for our lifetime.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ashley Sullivan
Location: Duluth, MN
Date: 11/10/2012

Comments

Yesterday, when I took the kiddos to look at the waves on Lake Superior, Brody asked if there were people in there. I told him, yes, as a mer of fact there are. (this after telling him to be careful because the waves could drag him into the water) I told him the story about the Edmund Fitzgerald. I told him the waves were much, much bigger but very strong and that the ship sunk and everyone in it went down with the ship. He looked at me suprised I actually had a story for his question. Then he said, oh! They are still in there? I told him the ship was but their souls are back in the Universe watching over the ships and boats that go out in the lake now. He smiled. Today is the 37th Anniversary of the sinking. They may be lost but 37 years later, a little 5 year old heard their story, so they are never forgotten!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Ohio
Date: 11/7/2012

Comments

Have people begun to forget? I know 37 years is a long time ago, but this was such a major event in my life, I can never forget. To all of the families out there, we will never forget. We still miss those men we lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jerilyn Spear
Location: Valrico, Fl.
Date: 11/3/2012

Comments

I was a young girl of 19, waiting to go to sea working in the Steward's Department on Exxon tankers, so I was especially horrified by the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I joined my first ship exactly one month later. Every year in Nov., I play the memorial song from my Gordon Lightfoot "Summertime Dream" album in memory of that "good ship and crew." What a beautiful, haunting tribute to those brave souls aboard, and may they all rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Harold Priest
Location: Tumwater, Wa
Date: 11/1/2012

Comments

After his service in the navy in WW2, my grandfather entered the great lakes iron ore shipping fleet. He told me of his time sailing under Capt. McSorley. When my grandfather retired from sailing the Great Lakes, he became a night watchman with my uncle at the Toledo, Oh docks. As a kid growing up in the 60's and early 70's, they would take me with them to work and take me all throughout those bg ships. I can say that i was on the Big Fitz as she was tied up. I remember where i was and what i was doing when i heard of the tragedy. When i talked about it with my grandfather we cried. It was the only time i ever saw him do that. I get emotional this time of year and i pray for the family and friends of those who were lost. God bless all of you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brandon
Location: Marquette
Date: 10/23/2012

Comments

im sorry about the ship it was very sad


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: skylie
Location: sandusky
Date: 11/8/2011
Remote Name: 72.240.177.208

Comments

I had family on that ship it was my great great great uncle it was hard to hear that to know that i will never meat him because he died as an oiler on the edmund fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Deborah (Champeau)Gomez-Felder
Location: Nashotah,WI
Date: 10/27/2011
Remote Name: 107.8.195.0

Comments

Dedicated to my Dad, Oliver J. Champeau-lost on the Edmund Fitzgerald, Nov 10,1975. Through his eyes, I could see tomorrow. Through his arms, I could feel his strength. Though his knowledge, I felt history, and his love of nature. Through his devotion, I felt his commitment to family. Through his love and good heart, I would always strive to be like him. I never saw my father cry, but I felt his broken heart. I didnt see him die, but I felt a terrible sense of grief and loss. Through his faith in God, I always felt protected from everything that life could throw in my direction. Even though I lost him so long ago now, I can never forget his laugh, his touch and his inspirational words. He was and is my hero. He wasnt perfect and neither am I. He was just a man who deserved allot more time on earth then was given, but that's just my opinion (not Gods.) "Dad, you will never be forgotten... not for one day, one month or any given year that goes by. I love you and miss you. I pray for you and all the other men that were lost with you and in such tragic ways. I grieve with them today as we did 36 years ago in Toldeo, Ohio. You will never, ever be forgotten. My love lives on forever and ever! Lovingly, your daughter


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Richard S. Mack
Location: Ocala,Florida 3448
Date: 10/14/2011
Remote Name: 67.8.208.29

Comments

My x-wife worked for Beth. Steel in Cleveland Oh,it would come on Sat or Sun,at the C+P Dock on the lakefront,my x-wife knew those people,It was yery painful,and still is.A.B.Homer was Sister.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ronny l,Chandler Sr.
Location: Memphis,Tenn
Date: 10/4/2011
Remote Name: 75.64.3.18

Comments

I miss seeing the fitzgerald an her crew,i grew up in detroit,mich an as a kid in the 60's an early 70"s i use to wave at the crew while out on belle island park,to this day,i see those men waving at me from the deck.im 52 yrs old now,and it still brings tears to my eyes,wow.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lisa
Location: Ontario
Date: 9/29/2011
Remote Name: 99.237.100.92

Comments

I just learned in music class that this happened. I felt sad the whole way through the song for the 29 crew man who died along the way of the wreck.That was very unfortunate.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Herman
Location: Bay Village,Ohio
Date: 9/13/2011
Remote Name: 99.183.184.148

Comments

Had 2 trips on the Fitz as a guest. Will always remember in 1968 how Captain Pulser had the Tigers game playing over the ships loud speaker. You just had to love it. R.I.P. Big Fitz and her crew


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: kenny
Location: wyoming il
Date: 9/2/2011
Remote Name: 205.142.178.36

Comments

I could not believe the song the first time i heard it on the radio now years later i have the cd i could not see how it went down.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dawna
Location: Beckley WVa
Date: 8/27/2011
Remote Name: 173.80.84.103

Comments

It Was A Bad Accident Sorry for the loss of the families of the 29 men I First Heard about it when i heard the song by Gordon Lightfoot and then watching documentaries of it it was very sad


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sarah brabon
Location: vicksburg MI
Email:
Date: 8/18/2011
Remote Name: 76.253.100.124

Comments

my grampa was on that ship and i was born november 10 1998 so my parents call me a mearacle child from my grampa


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: belle rudolph
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Email:
Date: 7/19/2011
Remote Name: 24.131.131.212

Comments

i think its so sad that the fitz sank iv`e always been a shipwreck fan its like i cant stop gathering facts about the edmund fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Marchese
Location: Mesa, AZ USA
Email: 427jmarchese
Date: 6/23/2011
Remote Name: 72.201.232.15

Comments

I support fully the comments of Anderson Captain Bernie Cooper who stated that Fitzgerald either bottomed out going too closely past Caribou Island or somehow sustained a stress fracture of the hull. I strongly disagree with the notion that there was ineffective closure of the hatch covers topside. Cooper stated that by 3:30 that afternoon after long passing Caribou Island, Fitzgerald had taken an 8 degree starboard list and was beginning to ride lower in the water. Cooper also stated that Captain McSorley had told him his 2 - 1000 gallon per minute pumps were not gaining any ground in removing water from the cargo hold areas. Effectively, Fitzgerald was sinking from 3:30 in the afternoon on. When the 2 - 30 foot plus waves hit the Arthur Anderson from behind at approximately 6:30 PM, it was only a mer of time before they caught up with Fitzgerald and immediately put its bow under water. The only reason I post these observations is that I was upset over the "official" board of inquiry's findings which put blame on Fitzgerald's crew. Those poor people did not deserve any blame.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Theresa M. Knox-Salo
Location: North Kingsville,Ohio
Email: stsalo
Date: 6/22/2011
Remote Name: 65.25.28.244

Comments

In 1972, I went to Ashtabula High School with "Karl Peckol" and were in Band together; he was 1st chair/clarinet,and was excellent at it. Band Director- Hector Martinez like to tease Karl just to see how red his face would get and it did; Kind-hearted but quiet and always with a sheepish grin on his face. We stayed intouch and met up again, one day in November 1975; days before he set out and he asked me to go for some coffee or lunch that day for he needed to talk; I said I couldn't for personal reasons. We talked, hugged and I said I'll meet up with you when you get back and we'll catch up then; worst mistake of my life and it haunts me to this day,and I cry each and every time I think of that day, the music when played etc... I will always remember him walking off and his smile that was so Karl, my best friend.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: clay shaw
Location: new phila, ohio
Email: bjshaw
Date: 6/16/2011
Remote Name: 75.187.162.85

Comments

I am very sad about the loss of the ship and the brave men.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ken Coffey
Location: Virginia, IL
Email: lp33speed
Date: 6/15/2011
Remote Name: 12.170.199.11

Comments

I had been on the Edmund Fitzgerald several times, the last time I was on it was to load its next to last cargo, a load of 1,000,000 bushels of corn in the Port of Milwaukee which it took to Minnesota and unloaded to take on its final loat of iron ore pellets. At the time I worked as a federal grain inspector for the Wisconsin Dept of Agriculture. Even though I was not really close friends with anny of the 29 men on board I knew them all. Ken


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: James E. Mann Jr.
Location: Yuma, Az
Email: jmannjr2
Date: 6/12/2011
Remote Name: 65.49.182.112

Comments

I feel it was a collection of small mishaps which led to the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I also want to thank Gordon Lightfoot for his song which forever memorializes the men for their sacrifices and who died that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Laurie Jacobs
Location: Grand Haven, Michigan
Email: ljacobs
Date: 5/10/2011
Remote Name: 165.139.171.246

Comments

I want to honor the brave men who died that day, and acknowledge that it was a horrible way to die. I pray for their safe return to the other side to be with God.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Foy
Location: Newbury Park/CA91320
Email: dvdf1916
Date: 4/26/2011
Remote Name: 165.214.4.22

Comments

The design of the Edmund Fitzgerald required it to be in the water at all times. A special wave came in contact with this ship/boat which lefted the stern out of the water. The weight of its cargo along with the design liminations caused the Edmund Fitzgerald to breakup and sink with all hands. The wave that lifted the Edmund Fitzgerald is extreamly rare on the great lakes. The ocean environment will produce such a wave but not very offen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bobby Groom
Location: Ble Creek, MI
Email: cmhornets89
Date: 4/23/2011
Remote Name: 99.190.86.134

Comments

The sad loss of all 29 men aboard is a reminder to all mariners that we are at the mercy of mother nature. I spent 8 years in the Coast Guard, stationed in the Great Lakes. My thought that many people over look is that I beleive the Fitz took a nose dive to the bottom of Lake Superior. The ship was riding low, had a weak haul, and a list of taking on water. She was hit by two waves from her stern, the second driving her straight under. The bridge is on the bow, thus resulting in no mayday or any communication being sent to the Anderson. This wouldn't give the crew time to prepare to abandon ship. She was driven underneath and her stern stuck out of the 300' depth. The stern got pounded by waves and the weak haul was unable to support the 400' plus sticking out, thus, the stern broke off and sank to the bottom upside down. The bow driven into the bottom layed flat down. This may also explain the ore being pushed towards the bow and breaking the hatches on the way to the bow of the ship. This can never be conformed and is just a theory that I beleived happend that faithful night. God bless the men and women whom keep our economy going and risk their lives on the water.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: R.fanning
Location:
Email: rofan59
Date: 2/26/2011
Remote Name: 66.188.238.228

Comments

my prayers go out to them..while i was in the navy we hit 30 swells i could not believe something manmade could withstand a pounding like that, thought the ship would split into anytime. and here they said it was the crews fault shame on them!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cary Byron
Location: Lewiston,N.Y
Email: oldbuttercup2
Date: 2/21/2011
Remote Name: 72.228.190.142

Comments

I believe the Fitzjerauld scraped the Shoal as she past slowly started taking on water which her pumps could not keep up with.This started her List to one side and then the Two Large waves that the Andersen reported that had past her came up from Behind and swamped her driving her bow downwards to the bottom were she broke at impact,and that is why the Wreckage is so close to each other.I was 10 at the time of the tradgedy and grew up on Lake Ontario watching large ships pass.Always intrigued by that night to what went on. May God Grant Peace to all the families that have lost there Loved Ones.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ayden Pulente
Location: Ontario
Email:
Date: 2/21/2011
Remote Name: 174.5.209.129

Comments

I heard the song last month and I am sad of the loss for everybody.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Wilson
Location: North Olmsted,OH
Email: polmarine1
Date: 2/18/2011
Remote Name: 75.10.159.244

Comments

5 ships were built with very thin hatch gaskets. When the Coast Guard commenced hose testing hatch gaskets after the loss, three of these ships could not get the hatches tight without installing new thicker gaskets. A fourth, the Arhur B. Homer, was in the shipyard and was not hose tested. The fifth was the Edmund Fitzgerald. The reconstructed trackline of the Fitz did not cross Chummy Bank. Positioning it on the bank was done by Anderson, using radar on relative rather than true bearings. At 17 miles one degree error is 1 mile in position. At the time Anderson had quartering seas. Think it out. Canadian survey confirmed bank was deeper than 6 fathoms.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joe Belusar
Location: Sterling Hts Mi.
Email: joeusa47
Date: 2/14/2011
Remote Name: 67.149.99.26

Comments

I believe the only way the Fitz sank that rapidly was it travel into an area of water saturated with gas, (methane or natural gas) equals loss of buoyancy causing a sinking were no one can use a life jacket or survival suit. Here is an easy test. Place a floating object (2x4) in a pale full of water, now place an air hose on the bottom of the water, open air valve = 2x4 sinks rapidly.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ken Laird
Location: Katoomba NSW
Email: kenglaird
Date: 2/11/2011
Remote Name: 58.164.9.134

Comments

as the song says, " the legend lives on"'


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kevin
Location: Australia
Email: steptoemanor
Date: 1/31/2011
Remote Name: 124.185.232.240

Comments

Haunting story with many well publicised theories confusing our focus on the real cause. Why didn't the authorities bring lost ones back up for families to bury. An emotive reason of graveyard status certainly will keep the cause a secret. Maybe when enough time has lapsed a party will take a close look at the ship to determine cause. Humans have always pushed the boundaries of testing self, mechanical capacity and cost cutting to boost profit because we get away with it most of the time. The accompanying ship survived so what had been Fitzys seaworthyness to survive such a storm..... Too late now for the crew. But let us learn from this and take a look at current maintenance practises. Can't help noticing a familiarity with aircraft failures when the owners blame human error.... Wonder why they do that?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: DeWayne
Location: Dublin, Va./ U.S.A.
Email: db1864
Date: 1/15/2011
Remote Name: 75.192.119.85

Comments

I seen a documentary on The Fitz a couple of years ago and I am still amazed at such a beautiful ship. The two possible causes of the wreck they gave, which you do not see in the voting panel, is one, the bow came to rest on one wave and the stern came to rest on another. Because of the weight in its cargo storage the ship did break in two between the two mighty waves. The second theory was that because of it being 200 feet longer than the lake is deep it went up on the top of a great wave, then nose dived straight to bottom causing a buckle effect that broke the ship in two. No one of us will ever know. But the fact stil remains it was a tragedy to all of those who were here that day to hear of it. My thoughts continue to be with the lost crew and their descendants.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: J. Grafton
Location: Detroit
Email: jg673
Date: 1/13/2011
Remote Name: 64.58.242.146

Comments

The question is not if the Fitz broke in half before it sunk, but why. The positioning and location of the sections on the bottom of Lake Superior are consistent with a breakup and sinking. Previous voyages in rough water by the Fitz produced conerns about a breakup due to it's flexing and weld breaking.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: lilsan
Location: Eastpointe, MI
Email: liddlesan
Date: 12/13/2010
Remote Name: 68.42.192.239

Comments

I don't think it could possibly break in two simply because of wave action and I'm sure the rivets were manufactured right considering what happened to the Titanic and the hatch covers were placed securely. I think the cargo shifted because of the extreme pounding action of the waves. The shifting cargo caused a major imbalance of the load causing one section of the freighter to fall lower and a giant wave to crack it in two.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Duane Simon
Location: Brant
Email: du.ju
Date: 11/23/2010
Remote Name: 174.124.249.59

Comments

The evidence seems to suggest that due to the length of these vessels and the stress that they receive in successive storms, that after a time they break in half. Like bending a wire back and forth. Unfortunately there is no reliable indicator that would tell exactly "when" this would happen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Marnich
Location: Mt. Morris, IL
Email: t.marnich
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 98.213.146.211

Comments

May the Good Lord comfort the families and friends of the men who lost their live on that night thirty five years ago, and may those men find eternal peace and light. My prayers have always been, and always will be, with all of you...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gary
Location: Beaufort, SC
Email:
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 64.253.9.190

Comments

I was living in Superior, WI in the early seventies. I remember seeing the Fitz in the Frazier Shipyard on my drive to work. I never knew why the Fitz was in the shipyard but recently found out she was having her boilers converted from coal to oil fired. I've taken many pics of ore boats at the yard but it was winter so I have none of the Fitz. I think she hit the shoal and cracked. She was far closer to it than any of the mariners said they would like to be. The Anderson was giving her position reports with his radar. It was impossible to navigate in that storm without radar. My heart goes out to the crews families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Janice Hammond
Location: Freeland Michigan
Email: wally
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 216.99.65.10

Comments

Sailors of the "Fitz" May your seas be calm, May the stars be bright, May the love of those you have left behind guide you home. And may God hold you gently in his loving arms. Rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Youngstown Ohio
Email: Cheryl.Rektor
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 64.18.40.254

Comments

It may be 35 years but I remember every detail of that day. I lived in a cottage in Ashtabula on the lake and I stood watching the biggest waves I had ever seen on Lake Erie. Superior was even worse. We lost a good friend that day. It never gets easier, this is always a tough day for me.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Janet Stevenson
Location: Highland, Michigan
Email: janetplanet67
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 76.122.146.223

Comments

I was 8 yrs old when my Dad told me there was a ship down. I make many trips up north and I always remember the men that were lost. When I see rough waters, I think of those lost. May the families feel the peace of God-they have been in my prayers for 35 years.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Steve Hammond
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
Email: shammond32
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 199.20.2.1

Comments

I worked as a welder at American Ship Building during 1974/1975 and during that winter the Edmund Fitzgerald was in drydock. I worked welding on new latches and I remember that the deck was very rusty and it was hard to get a good weld. But we did have quality control and inspection. I do not believe we made bad welds.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: stephen mccormick
Location: Widnes england
Email: stemac1959
Date: 11/10/2010
Remote Name: 92.40.71.52

Comments

my thoughts are with everybody who lost loved ones on the edmund fitzgerald 35 years ago today 10th november 1975 my deepest sympathy goes to you all god


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jenna Gaydish
Location: Sandusky Ohio
Email: gaydishjm
Date: 11/9/2010
Remote Name: 72.240.219.99

Comments

I am sad about the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Even though I just learned about it today in school.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Steve Petticoffer
Location: Ephrata, PA, USA
Email: the79thpvi.
Date: 11/8/2010
Remote Name: 72.25.50.177

Comments

This tragedy occurred on my 11th birthday. Each year on my birthday, I pause to remember the 29 men that were lost. They were hardworking men, just doing their jobs, and my thoughts go out to the families who think of their loss each year. Let our prayers be with those who work on the Great Lakes, especially in storm-prone November.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sara
Location: athens michigan
Email:
Date: 11/4/2010
Remote Name: 75.198.74.223

Comments

ever since i've heard about the Edmund Fitzgerald in my 4th grade english class, i was very interested in the mysterious wreck, i've read many books about The Fitz and i've memorized all the crew members' names and i'm very sorry for relatives of the 29 crew members.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Thom Schafer
Location: Shelbyville, Ill.
Email: schafer_thomas.
Date: 11/2/2010
Remote Name: 74.84.118.28

Comments

I think about this tragic accident quite often, as I could have also been on the Fitz that fateful evening. I grew up living three house down from deckhand Bruce L. Hudson in North Olmsted, Ohio. We grew up together, played as young boys and went to high school. Bruce was two years younger than me. I remember his father, Otis, playing his guitar, hearing the music from outside. I had just been discharged from the Air Force in August , 1975, and met Bruce in one of the local pubs. We had a beer or two together, and reminisced about times gone by. He asked me if I had found a job yet, which I had not at that time. He then mentioned that he could get me on the ship, as the company was hiring. I told Bruce that I really couldn't swim that well, that's why I joined the Air Force instead of the Navy. This exchange took place in late September of '75. The rest is now sad history. I often think of Bruce and all the crew, and ponder the lyrics "does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours", and how frightned all hands must have been. For all of the brave men who have sailed the Great Lakes and lost their lives , may the Lord continue to hold their souls in His hands, and give the families peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeff Branchick
Location: Strongsville, OH
Email: jjbranchick.
Date: 10/31/2010
Remote Name: 75.118.154.79

Comments

35 years now. It seems like yesterday. We were neighbors of the Hudson family in North Olmsted, OH. I was 14 then and they were on my paper route. I fondly recall earlier times when Bruce and his buddies would get their jam band together and rock the neighborhood from their garage across the street from our house. Us kids would gather on the sidewalk to listen to the live rock-n-roll decibels the guys were cranking out. Later on, by pure coincidence, I had the pleasure of working with and becoming friends with one of Bruce's band mates who lived a couple streets over then. That inspired a renewed interest in those events that still continues today. Like many of you, when this time of year comes around, it's impossible to not be moved by remembering those events. Still, all these years later, a terrible tragedy that will never be forgotten thanks to Gordon's haunting classic of that story. God bless the crew of "The Big Fitz." May you and all the lost mariners of the Great Lakes R.I.P.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: none
Location: blank
Email: anonymous.
Date: 10/28/2010
Remote Name: 208.180.120.34

Comments

I believe that the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald was a very sad loss. i was on that boat one day in my life it was fascinating. when i was a child i was astonished at its size and length.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lisa Shavlik
Location: Greenleaf, WI
Email: ghsmithcenturylink.
Date: 10/16/2010
Remote Name: 174.124.144.101

Comments

I heard Gordon Lightfoot singing the song about the Fitz yesterday on the radio and tears came to my ears. Even tho I did not know anyone on board, I couldn't help thinking how scared and helpless those men must have felt. May they be remembered in the resurrection.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: James Dickson
Location: Hobart, Indiana
Email: alloutdoors.
Date: 10/16/2010
Remote Name: 24.12.34.255

Comments

I have always been fascinated by this vessel. The Fitz is truly a legend of the Great Lakes and should be remembered through the generations, especially in our region. I have seen these Great Lakes of ours turn real mean ,real fast. To be able to defeat a mammoth such as the "Mighty Fitz" should be testimony to the strength of these inland oceans. May God protect the men and women who work on the water trying to build our nation. And keep those lost at sea in His own safe harbor. My prayers go out to the families and friends of those who perished with the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ronny l Chandler sr
Location: Memphis,Tenn 38127
Email: ronnylchandlersr.
Date: 10/6/2010
Remote Name: 98.66.21.128

Comments

I grew up in Detroit,Mich.and while out enjoying life on Belle Island Park i saw the fitz for years ,so naturally i was saddened for the many men who lost their lives while trying to make a living.icryed actually because im a 1st/1st stationary steam Engineer my self presently, and i can only imagine what old chief Engineer George Holl was thinking when he saw lake water under the boiler room floor grates, wow he knew like i would have known if i was chief then, we cracked at midship an the inner bottom is flooded, gentlemen we sinking say your prayers yes i think she cracked at mid ship starboard to port, sorry for your loss mam. i'll never for get them, their ship was a part of my life gone too.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Stephen
Location: West Springfield, Mass
Email: steve508.
Date: 9/28/2010
Remote Name: 71.233.140.252

Comments

I was a teenager the nite it was broadcast the Fitzgerald went down. I spent 4 years in the Navy and was Stationed at Great Lakes for a time in 1978-1979. My heart and prayers will always be with those men that went down with the Big Fitz. Rest in Peace Gentlemen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jordan mendoza
Location: santafe,tx
Email: glittleonesverizon.
Date: 9/21/2010
Remote Name: 72.73.160.97

Comments

i love the song of the edmund fitzgerald it kinda remindes me of the tv show,deadliest catch and the story of what happens is super sad.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Shubitowski
Location: Conneaut, Ohio
Email: shub1suite224.
Date: 9/21/2010
Remote Name: 72.2.73.107

Comments

My father was a captain for USS and a friend of Bernie Coopers. In fact we bought the house I live in off Bernie and Sue Cooper in 1966. Bernie was the only person that hit it on the head. If you've ever been inside a cargo hold, you know how tight the over 1" thick hatches seal, and in November, every clamp would have been on and tightened on each hatch. I grew up on ore boats, and know more than a little about them. 6 fathom shoal is only 36' of water, which wouldn't have been a lot under a loaded boat on a calm day, let alone loaded and riding low with, they say, as much as 20 foot waves. Also, dad explained to me that they had cut corners on the Fitz during construction, placing cargo hold drains only in the middle of each of the 3 holds, instead of the standard corner placement. Flooding of the cargo hold, no mer from top or bottom, would have settled in the side and not drained, accounting for the list the Fitz reported.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: max
Location: cody,wy
Email: brownkennedy48.
Date: 9/12/2010
Remote Name: 69.144.209.8

Comments

im sad about it the song is good it was bad storms water broke the railing thats how the water go in there it was a sad night the front of the ship is in a musuem


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mary Dunning
Location: Illinois
Email: mldfarms21
Date: 9/6/2010
Remote Name: 74.99.203.27

Comments

A friend of mine worked on the Edmond Fitzgerald. He debarked before it sank. He has photos of the men that he would like to share with surviving family members. He told me this at our 50th high reunion on Sept. 4, 2010.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Linda and Jason (my grandson)
Location: howell michigan
Email: steveandlinda53.
Date: 9/5/2010
Remote Name: 99.65.124.207

Comments

we took our grandson (6) up to see the edmund fitzgerald display in august this year. this is all he talks about and i showed him how to listen to the song on computer. he said grandma i am obsessed with the edmund fitzgerald and will talk about it all the time. now he wanted to know about the dad's and son's and said "grandma can we go visit their children and tell them we will pray for them and make friends with them?" he has a very tender heart as i do and i pray for all the men who were on the ship and that god gave them great comfort and they are now with him. we pray for all the families and friends and just want you all to know what brave dad's and son's you have. we will continue to pray for god's comfort and peace as only he can give and for the day that we will all be reunited with them. God bless you all linda and jason


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ben Burge
Location: Westfield, IN
Email: burgebd.
Date: 8/10/2010
Remote Name: 69.160.204.4

Comments

Just returned home from a visit to Mackinac Island. It brought back memories from my only previous visit to the island in 1977. I lived in Michigan from 1974 to 1980. In 1977, I sailed on a friend's 16ft Hobie Cat from Mackinac City to Mackinac Island. As we sailed a large ore carrier passed near by - the Arthur Anderson. I was stunned because of all the ships to see it happened to be the Anderson. I was very aware of its place in history, that it was the ship that reported "the lights went out of sight" as the song says. I remember how shocked everyone in Michigan was when the Fitz was lost and how sad it was and still is. During my visit to Mackinac Island last week I saw 2 big ore carriers pass by. I can look at one of them without thinking of the Fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Glen
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, MI
Email: bulldozer.
Date: 8/2/2010
Remote Name: 24.180.212.133

Comments

Tonight I'm sitting in a campsite along the Saint Mary's River in Sault Ste. Marie, MI. Just a few minutes ago the Arthur M. Anderson passed after coming down from Lake Superior and thru the locks just a mile north of here. I couldn't help but be reminded of the role that she played in the final moments of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I took a moment for a silent prayer for all those who perished on the Fitzgerald, and for those who pass peacefully by my campsite this evening on the Anderson. God Bless and keep those brave sailors aboard 'all the ships at sea'.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mike
Location: detroit mi. millerdix rd.
Email: hotrod2783.
Date: 7/31/2010
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

i really believe that the big fitz ether bottomed out or it was struck by a huge wave i can not see it being sank by water coming through the cargo hatches one captain said he was under them and only a cup or two would leak through and those hathes weights seven tones each 14.000 lbs ea im not shore how many there were i think 10 or 12 i used to cross the bridge at miller rd and dix and i have seen the fitz docked unloading ironore pellets at the ford rouge plant back in the 70s im still here today by dix  woodmer i cross that bridge every day doing erins taking my brother to work i have seen the arthur anderson about 3 or 4 years ago crossing that bridge i have always been interested in the big fitz i watched the documentary on the discovery channel and i think that the guy who said that the water came through the cargo hatches is full of it my condolences go out to you and your family and those who lost there familes of 29 men god bless all of you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: william fletcher
Location: kennett,missouri
Email: ambermonkey.
Date: 7/26/2010
Remote Name: 99.28.222.251

Comments

It was a tragic loss for the families and americia.I remember harry reasner telling about on the evening news. I was 11yrs old. RIP captain and good crew, you are not forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Klima
Location: Rhinelander,WI
Email: bobk54501charter.
Date: 7/11/2010
Remote Name: 97.86.36.6

Comments

With some 200 feet of the center of the vessel missing, how can they be so certain that she didn't bottom out on a shoal?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Glenn
Location: Sele WA
Email: gpg123live.
Date: 5/24/2010
Remote Name: 169.204.230.178

Comments

I was in college a the time the ship sank. I was in the process of or had already obtained a Merchant Marine License and the sinking gave me great pause for reflection. I never went to sea but I can remember a feeling of great loss at the tragedy. I can't really say if the wreck influenced my decision of going to sea or weather it was the daunting task of actually getting employment. But I felt for the families and the men that died in that event many people don't realize that thousands of working people risk their lives everyday for the rest of us to have the power, electricity and consumer goods, as well as housing, vehicles etc. We need to remember these people.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ozair
Location: Wisconsin
Email: amir_arshad1.
Date: 5/12/2010
Remote Name: 24.209.185.163

Comments

I have always liked ships. When I herd of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald I was so into it I couldn't stop gathering information. I was always thinking, "It's impossible that the Fitz could sink". But my friends and I had theories that know one thought of .God bless every one lost on the oceans and lakes. You won't be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: n.p.
Location:
Email: gonefishing555666.
Date: 4/26/2010
Remote Name: 207.74.25.131

Comments

the edmund went down in 3 sections the middle one was over turned and the other 2 were visable it was not


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ryan
Location: napanee
Email: godfrey98live.
Date: 4/21/2010
Remote Name: 70.27.85.125

Comments

yours will be missed by your loved ones and forgotten by the citizens god bless you all who lost loved ones. with all my respect Ryan


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brittany
Location: dothan alabama
Email: Brittanyw099
Date: 4/21/2010
Remote Name: 67.177.88.154

Comments

This goes out my uncle that died on ship i hope he cant rest in piece and all of the men that new him! For they were all good men and great sailors! Let ever one know how they stayed together when the ship was going under the great waves of water


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: Ble Creek, Mi
Email: noahandnate.
Date: 4/1/2010
Remote Name: 75.41.1.119

Comments

I was 7 that November, living in the Sault. My most vivid memory is of the following day of the storm. Many homes then still had large television antennas mounted on the rooftops. When we drove through town, every antenna was laying flened and twisted. Kids in school were drawing many images of the storms aftermath. I remember dozens of drawings of Fitsgerald with only her funnel above the water, like a sharks fin!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dave
Location: bc
Email: davearm3.
Date: 3/25/2010
Remote Name: 207.81.70.168

Comments

The ship was hit by a large wave and the ship took on water and the hull door burst open


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Frank Leslie
Location: Chatham, Ontario
Email: flesliercec.london.on.ca
Date: 3/25/2010
Remote Name: 66.225.173.110

Comments

I voted for shoaling as this would be the cause of her breaking in two.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cooper
Location: Breverly hills MI
Email:
Date: 3/23/2010
Remote Name: 69.136.155.27

Comments

My god that day is just like pearl harbor never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Linda
Location: Ontario
Email:
Date: 3/19/2010
Remote Name: 173.206.98.201

Comments

I wonder if we as the general public would have cared so much about the Edmund Fitzgerald if it had not been for the song. I remember hearing it often on the radio as a child. I believe the song was so haunting that it made the Fitzgerald a legend. As it well deserved. Let us remember all who perish on the lakes. Too many.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: cory portelli
Location: gozo malta europe
Email: supermaltanet.
Date: 3/18/2010
Remote Name: 195.158.99.198

Comments

leaking hatches


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: shaunafitzgerald
Location: st.johns
Email:
Date: 3/9/2010
Remote Name: 142.163.80.25

Comments

it makes me sad to know how many people died on that ship and it makes me even sadder since my last name is Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Louis Harris
Location: Sterling CO.
Email: louisharris777725.
Date: 3/4/2010
Remote Name: 4.228.204.7

Comments

I Think the waves, the storm,the winds were to much for her, it took her down, when she hit bottom she broke apart..


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: luke denotter
Location: tigertion
Email: lukedenotter.
Date: 2/16/2010
Remote Name: 209.62.173.235

Comments

I feel very bad for what happened to the helpless people


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: Kettering,Ohio
Email: johnbaltesymail.
Date: 2/10/2010
Remote Name: 65.31.54.208

Comments

I saw the "Fitz" in the summer of 75.I was 15 yrs old. I was swimming in the channel and underwater when I heard the Fitzgerald passing through. I thought my God thats a big boat.When I surfaced and saw it;I was right.She was a big boat. It has been a lasting memory because I realize I saw the Fitz on one of her final cruises.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Peter
Location: Dorset, UK.
Email: sentinel.7.co.
Date: 2/6/2010
Remote Name: 81.141.105.71

Comments

The mystery still haunts us years on, no one survived to tell the tale, and because of GLs haunting song. No one will ever know for sure what took the "Big Fitz" to the bottom that night and made her into a legend, but it never fails to amaze me how fast a storm can whip the surface of the sea into a frenzy, to sink ships and drown men and then just as soon afterwards return it to a calm peace, with no thought for those who have perished in its waves. What purpose is served by its anger? I have a problem believing that a just and loving god can command something like this. Its almost like a "tantrum" of nature.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: E.J. Jocque
Location: Lansing, Mi
Email: clerksandclerks2.
Date: 1/29/2010
Remote Name: 76.252.67.248

Comments

I am trying to gather information about the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald for a screenplay I am writing. I read somewhere as well as seeing here on thiese postings that the cook that went down with the ship was not the origional cook planed to be on the final voyage. Does anyone know the name of the cook that was origionaly to be on the Fitzgerald? And is he still alive?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Collin Dykstra
Location: grand rapids MI
Email:
Date: 1/22/2010
Remote Name: 64.141.163.146

Comments

That ship will never be forgotten. The men on it died a brave death I can't imagine the horrors of that storm.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Doug LaLonde
Location: Superior, Wisconsin
Email: pegleglaroo.
Date: 1/9/2010
Remote Name: 69.179.4.218

Comments

The Captain on the Fitzgerald would not have allowed the ship to be so close to a shoal as to ground. The Captains on Great Lakes ships have been around long enough to know how to navigate in heavy weather with or without radar. I work as 1st Mate with the American Steamship Company. I've been working on the Great Lakes for over 35 years. I believe the Fitzgerald broke in two, possibly from the impact of a rogue wave. I was on a freighter one night sailing upbound from Whitefish point to Manitou Island and we hit a rogue wave. It felt as if the ship was going to disintegrate, it shook so badly. Anyway, the wreck of the Fitzgerald is a sad, sad story. Needless to say, I think about the ship and it's crew often and my prayers go out to the families. Warm Regards to All, Doug La Londe


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Don Smith, Jr
Location: Caldwell, Ohio
Email: choppers124.
Date: 1/1/2010
Remote Name: 71.74.242.75

Comments

Stop thinking and commenting God rest their soles


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mhew Marnich
Location: Two Harbors, MN
Email: mjmarnich.
Date: 12/24/2009
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

This may be a little late but after reading some of what the people wrote was nice, but I am 29 years old and sailed for almost four years on a couple of different ships and companies on the Great Lakes, and what I can say for those who haven't sailed the lakes is theres nothing more scary and gut-renching than to be in a storm so trecherous when you see the boat bending up and down like its made out of rubber. I plan on sailing again in the very near future and to sum it up is God bless the Fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Noah
Location: Michigan
Email:
Date: 12/9/2009
Remote Name: 24.33.241.20

Comments

I blame half the wreckage on the captian: 1.He pushed his freighters to their utmost in any weather condition 2.He never reported "The Wiggling Thing" (Loose keel, making the ship jump and spring around consideratley) 3.Putting to much stress on the ship during the storm he really shouldnt have gone out into. i really do not now how Inland steel kept him master. Its appauling


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: brianna
Location: west olive MI
Email:
Date: 12/7/2009
Remote Name: 207.74.23.67

Comments

I think that the cargo made the Edmund Fitzgerald sink by the cargo shift and made the Edmund Fitzgerald tip and get to heavy and sank the split in half and landed upside down at the bottom of Lake Superior.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Newland
Location: Cedar Springs, MI
Email: jcnewlandcharter.
Date: 11/23/2009
Remote Name: 75.135.147.52

Comments

Just a great ship lost in such a tragic way. God bless all 29 men and their families. My 3 yr. old boy loves Gordon Lightfoot's song and knows just about all the words. I hope in some small way when the families and friends of those men hear that beautiful song they remember the good times.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gilbert
Location: Southwold,on.
Email: tallchefrogers.
Date: 11/22/2009
Remote Name: 74.210.34.137

Comments

I used to work on the lakeboats. I did a shifting job on the Fitz,once in Bflo.,N.Y. to get grain off her, which would be loaded ,before layup.She was huge!I can imagine the stress that she would have experienced in heavy seas! I feel for the ones left behind and also for others that have lost their loved ones..I made a trip on the Morell, before it sank, a few years prior to this event..It wasn't my time to go, I'm still here..Here's to all the survivors!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: njk
Location: Davisburg, MI
Email: nkrempa.
Date: 11/12/2009
Remote Name: 98.243.135.54

Comments

Ever since my son (now 20) heard about the Fitzgerald, he has been obsessed. He hounded me to learn everything we could about it, and the tragedy that took so many lives. We bought every book we could find on the subject and, before he was even in school, he made me read them to him as bedtime stories. He absorbed all the facts and figures and thirsted for more. He watched the live coverage of the recovery of the lost anchor in the Detroit River with rapt ention. He dragged us to Belle Isle to the Dossin Great Lakes Museum for the 20th anniversary of that horrible night and listened avidly to all the speakers. It was uncanny, watching a child that young delving so deeply into something that most young boys would not give a second thought. Through him, I learned the stories of the families left behind and my heart goes out to each and every one of them. May whatever higher power exists grant them the peace that they deserve, having been torn from their loved ones in such a tragic way. If it is any consolation I, like so many others on this board, offer up my heartfelt condolences... and my thoughts are with them every year at this time.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joe Rohrbach
Location: Allentown P.A.
Email: s.bilheimer.
Date: 11/11/2009
Remote Name: 208.58.40.117

Comments

The tragedy of this event was brought to my ention by Gordon Lightfoot,who preserved the memory of the 29 lost. My thoughts and prayers are with them and their families. May they never be forgotten!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: maddie
Location: wausau,WI 54403
Email: sittecharter.
Date: 11/11/2009
Remote Name: 24.177.135.117

Comments

i think that the Edmund Fitzgerald is very exciting to me. it inspires my inside expeshully the song i read the book i love to read it while it is playing on the computer. Thank you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: Indiana
Email:
Date: 11/10/2009
Remote Name: 98.227.78.125

Comments

I don't want to cause any more contoversy, but the Coast Guard was thorough in their investigation. Superior didn't have great loading records, but Duluth did. Assuming the same Captain and crew would have loaded in 11/09 the same as earlier at Duluth, the hatch covers probably weren't secure. 999 times out of 1000 it wouldn't have been a problem, but... I can't leave my name.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: cody J. Haines
Location: cross lake, MN
Email: hainer21.
Date: 11/10/2009
Remote Name: 74.51.179.189

Comments

i have really been interested in this event for a long time and it still makes me sad and whenever i go up to the north shore i cant look at the lake without thinking about th fitzgerald my thoughts, prayers and feelings go out to the crew and families that experienced that tragic night there is an old sailor saying red sky at night sailors delight red sky at morning sailor take warning


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Toby Mayer
Location: Vermilion, Ohio.
Email: tmayer4763.
Date: 11/10/2009
Remote Name: 98.125.3.54

Comments

i also think she hit the shoal, with a lean like that. I think of the great ship often, i live 3 miles from Lake Erie, and have fished her and i know that she can kick up so fast you don't have time to react. I can only imagine what the big lake would be like.


 

 

Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Deborah E. Champeau
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Email: gomezfelder at .co
Date: 11/9/2009
Remote Name: 70.92.158.1

Comments

Dedicated to my Dad, Oliver J. Champeau-lost on the Edmund Fitzgerald, Nov 10,1975.

Through his eyes, I could see tomorrow.
Through his arms, I could feel his strength.
Though his knowledge, I felt history, and his love of nature.
Through his devotion, I felt his commitment to family.
Through his love and good heart, I would always strive to be like him.
I never saw my father cry, but I felt his broken heart.
I didnt see him die, but I felt a terrible sense of grief and loss.

Through his faith in God, I always felt protected from everything that life could throw in my direction.
Even though I lost him so long ago now, I can never forget his laugh, his touch and his inspirational words.
He was and is my hero. He wasnt perfect and neither am I. He was just a man who deserved allot more time on earth then was given, but that's just my opinion (not Gods.)

"Dad, you will never be forgotten... not for one day, one month or any given year that goes by.
I love you and miss you. I pray for you and all the other men that were lost with you and in such tragic ways. I grieve with them today as we did 34 years ago in Toldeo, Ohio.
You will never, ever be forgotten. My love lives on forever and ever!

Lovingly,
Debbie Champeau (your daughter)


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Henry Fayant
Location: Denver,Colorado
Email: denverhank at .net
Date: 11/9/2009
Remote Name: 174.51.79.60

Comments

Its now been 34 years since this wreck happened. Nov. 10 1975 shall always be remembered. May God continue to give peace to all the families involved. It was the mightiest ship to ever set sail on Lake Superior!! Thanks.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Thomas Mccann
Location: Lakewood CA
Email: mccannthomas at sbcglobal.net
Date: 11/9/2009
Remote Name: 76.255.199.165

Comments

The anniversary is quickly approaching.My best friends brother Mike Armagost was aboard the Fitz when she went down.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: George M.
Location: Nanticoke Pennsylvania
Email: k3zk at samobile.net
Date: 11/7/2009
Remote Name: 205.238.250.107

Comments

I still remember the sinking as though it was yesterday. I have done much research about the wreck, and to this day it is still somewhat of a mystery exactly what took the freighter down. My thoughts and prayers are still with the crew, family, and friends.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: pam adams
Location: whitehouse tx
Email: adamsp at whitehouseisd.org
Date: 11/6/2009
Remote Name: 74.192.112.116

Comments

Every year at this time I use GL lyrics and have my students infer the meaning of his literary devices. What a genius! The kids love the music. After hearing the song they dive into research about this tragic loss. God Bless the families and friends who lost loved ones. So many hearts are heavy for you and prayers given at this time when we all remember.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: wolf.a.mary.co
Location: jordan mn
Email: wolf.a .mary at .co
Date: 10/28/2009
Remote Name: 71.193.72.65

Comments

I'm so sorry to all of you who have lost loved ones on the Edmund Fitzgerald....


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Katie
Location: Minneapolis
Email:
Date: 10/17/2009
Remote Name: 68.112.136.209

Comments

Does anyone know how much the ship weighed? This is to te Big Fitz and her crew: Bless the families who had family members on the ship, please pray that they are living thier lives like everybody should.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Karin Bowden
Location: Ft. Wayne, IN
Email: bucky06 at verizon.net
Date: 9/9/2009
Remote Name: 72.86.96.185

Comments

Negligence! Negligence sank Big Fitz. The ship had keel and other problems with it. Why didn't Captain McSorley take the same route as the Anderson? By the way, there is a memorial set up on the beach at Whitefish Pt. for 3 of the crew members: Bruce L. Hudson, Ransom E. Cundy, and, I believe, Mark A. Thomas. Anyone know anything about this? The memorial was not there last year. We were there on 9/2/09 when we saw it. Very, very nice, whoever did that. May those 29 lost souls be forever kept in the hearts of boat nerds everywhere. Bless the families of those lost as well.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.
Email: woodenkat4 at .co
Date: 9/7/2009
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

First I hope clooney's movie the hundred year storm-not sure if that is the right title-is not based on this tradegy. Second as hard as it might be to some to believe, Brooklyn is a seafaring town and I grew up among boats and sailing men, my Great Uncle was a submariner in WWI. The sad thing is when you are running for home or a port or a save cove what can you do if it's just too far away? Who cares why she went down except to make sure others don't go down needlessly to that watery grave.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: don novicki
Location: girard pa
Email: dnovicki at .co
Date: 9/2/2009
Remote Name: 71.74.111.161

Comments

I'll never forget hearing about the loss of the ship and all crew aboard. My sympathy goes out to the families and loved ones left behind. God rest their souls....


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: john
Location: dayton,oh
Email: johnbaltes at ymail.co
Date: 8/31/2009
Remote Name: 24.164.92.40

Comments

I was 14 years old when I saw the "Fitz" heading west through the "Soo Locks". That was in late July of 1975.The Fitz stood out to me because of her size.The fate of those 29 men will always remain in my mind and heart. As a U.S.Navy veteran I salute those guys.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sarah brabon
Location:
Email: sarah_brabon at .co
Date: 8/23/2009
Remote Name: 98.209.222.202

Comments

my grand father was on that ship i never met him. whats weird was i was born on nov,10,1998 the day the ship sank on nov,10 so i was born on the 50ith anversy of the ship( my parents call me the merical baby)


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Alex
Location: North Bay ON.
Email: alex.larade at sympatico.c
Date: 8/22/2009
Remote Name: 66.185.206.58

Comments

This question has been around for some time now and if so much hadn't been written about "The Big Fitz." I'm sure many more questions would need to be ansewerd.I think she broke in two from a stress fracture of the hull just like Capt. Cooper stated in his reports.The Fitzgerald was a work horse like all fleet ships are, they are worked hard and when the boat gets put to the ultimate test only the strong survive.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Karen Hamlin
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Email: babybluze223 at .co
Date: 8/21/2009
Remote Name: 207.117.33.135

Comments

I have always loved Gordon Lightfoots version of "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" but the version sung by Brian Burns leaves me in tears everytime when he recites the names of the crew members at the end of the song. One of my favorite places to go is Whiskey Island. There you can see a couple of lighthouses in the distance. When I look out onto the water, I often think about the Fitzgerald and those men (most of them were so youg)and their families. I can't help fighting back tears everytime. Sleep well and may your presence be guardians for all those that travel the Great Lakes. You will always be remembered.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Alan Roberts
Location: Chipping Sodbury UK
Email: r.alan75 at .co.uk
Date: 7/11/2009
Remote Name: 78.145.156.108

Comments

since hearing G.Lightfoot's tribute to the "Fitz" i often wondered if it was a true story. Only now in 2009 have i had it confirmed (while trying to get a download of the song) I've seen the pictures and read the reports of the tragedy and my heart goes out to those brave men and their families. I note the keel was laid on 7 august, the day of my 14th birthday. I was born in south wales, 3000miles away and now live in england,but I still feel for all those concerned. Incidently, I flew over Lake Superior last August 8th my 65th birthday


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Amanda Metzger
Location: St. Albans WV
Email:
Date: 6/29/2009
Remote Name: 173.80.155.174

Comments

I first heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald through the famous Gordon Lightfoot song that bears the same name. I was born in December of 1975. I was just a baby when the news was still thick in the air. I feel a chill and a deep sadness for all the men and families who encountered such sadness on the cold november day 33 years ago. My best of wishes to all those who are still working the lake today.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tim Zimmer
Location: Vestal N.Y.
Email: timzimmer at 97
Date: 6/29/2009
Remote Name: 74.74.80.137

Comments

When I watched Deep Sea Detective about the Edmund Fitzgerald that the Fitzgerald might have struck the shoal that it might have left some iron on the bottom of the shoal or scraped iron on the rocks. that's what I believe about it striking bottom and some debris in the shoal


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Phil
Location: Swansboro, NC
Email: pwarrenhutson at .co
Date: 6/24/2009
Remote Name: 76.4.22.239

Comments

God Bless The Fitz. and it's crew, brave men all. And Sea will give up her dead.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cannin
Location: Tampa, Fla.
Email:
Date: 6/23/2009
Remote Name: 75.200.208.148

Comments

My father-n-law has told me many stories of his time spend as a deckhand on the large ships on the Great Lakes. He says she was refered to as The Big Fitz. He has told me many times that his thoughts are she was broken by whats called twin sisters. One on the bow and one on the stern causing her back to break from all of the weight not supported in the middle. Who knows for sure but one thing is for sure, alot of good people have lost there lives on the lakes fullfilling the need of there loved ones. GOD BLESS THEM ALL !!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Doug
Location: Tampa Bay Florida
Email: doughoffineat vzw.blackberry ne
Date: 5/31/2009
Remote Name: 24.96.184.204

Comments

I grew up in michigan and learned of the Fitzgerald at an early age when i first heard the song on the radio and asked my dad what it was about. as i grew older i did reading about the ship and the wreck, and found all the theories interesting, yet not all seemed to make sense. There was never any evidence that the Fitz bottomed out in the shoals, just because they were in the area. the best cause for the sinking was the Fitz being overtaken from the stern by the same rogue waves that struck the Arthur M. Anderson. these waves would have raised the stern up, dropping the bow, and causing the cargo to shift foreward. this in addition to the ship sliding down the wave would have generated tremendous kenetic energy which railroaded the bow into the hard bedrock floor of the lake, with such force as to disintegrate part of the midsection causing the stern to break away and roll over. remember, the pictures and examinations of the wreck sight show lots of damage to the bow, and the stern rolled upside down. this is just my opinion of the most likely cause. no one will ever be certain. what ever happened, it happened in a flash and with the fore of a kid slapping a toy boat in a bathtub.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John L. Crumb
Location: PortColborne Ont canada
Email: jcrumb1at cogeco ca
Date: 5/30/2009
Remote Name: 72.38.202.132

Comments

Firstly,stop what you're doing right now for a couple of minutes.Use this time to remember the men,their families,and all of those who felt a huge sense of loss on that November day.Amen. I was four days shy of my 15th birthday. I think about her,nary missing a day.How could this be after 34 yrs? The answer is simple.I live on the North shore of Lake Erie,right where the Welland Ship Canal begins.I feel a sense of kinship with this vessel,and the brave souls that were called to glory.These powerful feelings are the result of many fond memories,that stem from the many,many,times where as a lad,I watched her as she passed right before me on her way to another destination.Being born and raised in PortColborne,not only did I see her,I watched throughout my life,many ships that made their way through the locks to be raised and lowered to the necessity of the Lakes, Erie and Ontario.Pouring salt into the wounds,I saw over time, dozens of Sailors,who were waiting to ship out,or on a shore leave whilst loading or refuelling. Not an uncommon sight,but very emotional when these tooed,musclebound men sat together and wept.People in here "vote" on which scenario most likely was the cause of her demise. I won't. Simply because it can't change what's already happened.All we can do from then till now,and from now to whenever,is remember and pray.I saw my home town struck silent amid the tears that flowed like the water that could nevermore keep her afloat.We can never forget,but we can turn our dismay into thoughts of happier times,when all of us were together,and the bonds that were formed over the times when we were.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: william steele
Location:
Email:
Date: 5/20/2009
Remote Name: 67.160.79.159

Comments

i think how the boat went down was a leaky hatch. i am sorry about the boat and its crew. bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Shirley Olinger
Location: Evans City, Pa.
Email: solingerat zoominternet ne
Date: 5/11/2009
Remote Name: 24.101.98.117

Comments

This was my husband's "favorite subject". He's been gone now for a long while, but it stays within my heart, so very much! Will we ever know?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Paula
Location: Muskegon, MI
Email: paulahallorabat  ne
Date: 5/6/2009
Remote Name: 198.110.32.2

Comments

My dad's boat was the funeral boat (the first boat to pass over the site). They had a ceremony. Does anyone have pictures of this?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Willie Clark
Location: Munising, Mi
Email: jwclark07at  co
Date: 4/25/2009
Remote Name: 66.7.167.43

Comments

I saw the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1972 sailing on the Benjamin F. Fairless when we were going thru the soo locks. Never in my life would I have thought something like that would happen. Going through a couple storms on lake superior in November I can only imagine what was going thru the crews mind. I think one or more of the hatches failed and the ship took on water to the point of the bow going under and never coming back up. I quit sailing in 73 and remember the storm in 75.I was glad to be on land.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: George Beegle
Location: Houston, Tx.
Email: bang333at sbcglobal ne
Date: 4/3/2009
Remote Name: 69.151.219.0

Comments

My father retired off the Anderson in 72. 47 years on Great Lakes....The coast guard had warned the company about having several plates loose and needed to be in dry dock for repairs that lay-up season....at dinner time (evening) she was taking in water from her deck hatches.she never broke into until her stern went down and then it broke into when the stern hit the bottom.My father Capitain Harold Beegle retired off the Anderson the year before. Capt. Berney Cooper was master of the Anderson the night the FitZ. went down


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: glen moore
Location: johnson city, tn.
Email: n/a
Date: 4/1/2009
Remote Name: 74.4.23.129

Comments

As a historian of the great lakes and a true lover of the ships that sail the lakes especially superior, I appreciate any information on them. God rest their souls, and families.


Subject: Water Depth and Length of ship
From: Dan Sullivan
Location: Durham NC
Email: accountingat brighterideas co
Date: 3/27/2009
Remote Name: 66.57.229.116

Comments

I became interested in the wreck of the Fitz while living in Marquette Michigan in 1988-93. I lived on Lake Superior and was a regular at the museum there. As much as I liked the museum, their display that empted to show water depth to scale, which it did not. I'm convinced that the ship nose-dived on a rogue wave in the following seas, broke its back, instantly submerging all hands fore. The separated stern rolled over and plunged with all aft hands. A 729' ship in 160' of water is hard to visualize, given that the ship would be sticking up vertically over 600' - or higher than the Washington Monument. A simple trig problem indicates that the ship would have to dive at 45 degrees to hit bottom if it slid down a wave trough. Though that seems odd, if the waves were sufficiently spaced to cause a rhythmic pitching, the ship couldn't gone down in seconds, struck bottom, twisted and broken, and disappeared almost instantly. If they were already nose-heavy from leaks in the bilge or the hatches, the process would've been faster. I'm just thinking this is an equally plausible solution. Best wishes to all family and friends.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian
Location: Eau Claire, WI 54701
Email: lima_trade_centerat  co
Date: 3/24/2009
Remote Name: 205.213.166.68

Comments

May the Edmund Fitzgerald and its crew along the guost of the Edmund Fitzgerald remain forever in eternal peace. and may the Coast Guard be struck down by God if it ever fabricates the report of another lost ship!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Susan Justice
Location: Amherst
Email: dakotasue05at  co
Date: 3/23/2009
Remote Name: 76.188.157.53

Comments

wave swells opened up causing the Edmund Fitzgerald to hit the bottom of the lake bed and break in half


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ansley
Location:
Email:
Date: 3/13/2009
Remote Name: 173.108.53.70

Comments

i think that the ship broke in two it is most likely. God bless the 29 men on that ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Paula Pearson
Location: Plymouth, IN
Email: ppearsonat plymouth.k12.in.us
Date: 2/23/2009
Remote Name: 165.139.83.2

Comments

I am a Media Clerk at an Elementary school and I wish someone would write a book appropriate for grades K-4 on the Edmund Fitzgerald. My husband and I went to the lighthouse near Whitefish Bay and witnessed the memorial service there. It is beautiful that so many people still feel so strongly.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dana
Location: Michigan
Email: none
Date: 2/19/2009
Remote Name: 198.110.50.253

Comments

I am doing a project on the Edmund Fitzgerald and i can't get over the fact that so many people died. It was such a terrable thing that happened. I wish everyone a long and happy life and God bless the crew and their familys


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: michael
Location: athens ohio
Email: mikecain06at  co
Date: 2/12/2009
Remote Name: 98.115.235.88

Comments

i keep those men an there families in thought it was a terrible thing to happen i couldn't imagine going through a thing like that god bless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gene
Location: Waterville, OH
Email: efph0555at roadrunner co
Date: 2/12/2009
Remote Name: 12.129.115.68

Comments

A subject of sincere interest to me, I may choose to do my thesis on this great vessel. There are several reasons why she did not make Whitefish Point. While I respect the Coast Guards official report, I strongly disagree with their conclusion. I suspect they overlooked the structural integrity of a ship of that size. May the good men of that great vessel be waiting with Jesus to welcome their family members to Heaven.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Danii
Location: Culpeper
Email: gzusfreak4everat  co
Date: 2/9/2009
Remote Name: 12.20.146.126

Comments

im so sorry for the families may the lord comfort them


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Timothy Shifflett
Location: Winchester, Virginia
Email: timwin_vaat verizon ne
Date: 2/5/2009
Remote Name: 72.73.37.128

Comments

hello everyone. i saw images of the edmund fitzgerald and saw some of the boats as well that go in and out of the great lakes, i pray for all on those ships and vessels. just remember when duty calls . god has plans for all of us, god bless keep in good minds on high seas and stay alert.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: m
Location: minnesota mn
Email:
Date: 2/3/2009
Remote Name: 206.131.108.4

Comments

god bless the fizgerald family


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: pam johnson
Location: kansas
Email: jwhodyat sbcglobal ne
Date: 2/1/2009
Remote Name: 66.142.211.221

Comments

It is so good to see such a large love of the FITZ. My dad was the last cook on the FITZ when she sank. Also thank you for all the well wishes and good thoughts. It is still like it was yesterday for me. I so miss my dad. Robert Rafferty Temp. Steward


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Marissa
Location: Arlington, TX
Email: brennanmat ymail co
Date: 1/28/2009
Remote Name: 76.186.168.12

Comments

this is amazing I am researching about it for a school report and i really got interested and best of all i get a grade on it! although this was a tragic accident it fascinates me that it just vanished. Lord please bless all the families and friends who knew the passengers on the ss edmund fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: A Seaman
Location: Wisconsin
Email: nutrition4lifeat dtldigit co
Date: 1/26/2009
Remote Name: 69.179.13.41

Comments

I have been riding self-unloaders on the Great Lakes for over 35 years. And I still do.  I'm certain the "Fitz" broke on the surface of the Lake before it sunk. The hull, I believe, was damaged long before that fateful trip. If you knew what I knew you would understand why I say this. For instance; How much can you bend the hull of a ship before the steel gives out somewhere in it? There are a lot of incompetent Mates loading these ships and stressing the heck out of them in ways you can't even imagine. Especially with Iron Ore, (taconite) pellets! Also, there certainly are "Rogue" waves. I know because I've seen them. The Edmund Fitzgerald sank because of too much stress on it's hull. Plain and simple. Because if you take a ship into heavy seas that has been bent and stressed as many times as the Fitz had been, there's a good chance it'll go down. Anyone who has rode on these type of ships as long as I have will say the same thing I'm saying. The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald probably took place from many incidences of stress long before her last trip. And you want to know something else? It's going to happen again.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Burke Beyer
Location: Metairie, LA.
Email: burkebeyerat  co
Date: 1/23/2009
Remote Name: 70.171.68.128

Comments

Hello, I'm looking for Deborah Gomez-Felder. I have a message. I am by no means a psychic, however, I recently saw a documentary about the Edmund Fitzgerald, a topic I have always been inexplicably drawn to. During an interview, she commented that she expected her father to show up at her graduation because he would never miss it. During that segment, I heard as clear as day (though not out loud, sort of like the way you experience a bell tolling) "I didn't." I realize this sounds insane but, I felt compelled to tell her that her dad was most assuredly there. I can't explain this very well and am currently struggling to understand this myself but, if anyone one on this site knows her, please tell her. I think she needs to know. Dad was there. Thanks, Burke


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: nicole brabon
Location: kalamazoo,MI
Email: nicole_braboat  co
Date: 1/18/2009
Remote Name: 69.214.18.87

Comments

I am the granddaughter of blaine wilhelm oiler on the fitz when it went down. it has always been a big part of my life. to me it doesn't mer so much how it went down put the people that went down with it. i have only heard stories of my grandfather and he was a wonderful man, i could only imagine how wonderful the rest of the crew was. i think about the fitz all the time we have pictures of it hanging on our wall. i thank everyone who prays for the crew and families, my thoughts and prayers go out to anyone else who has lost a loved one one the lakes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: big d
Location: mn
Email:
Date: 1/10/2009
Remote Name: 74.47.83.220

Comments

our town elementary school's cook had a father on there. he was Nolan F Church


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Hans Noetzel
Location: vernon Michigan
Email: hnoetzelat chartermi ne
Date: 1/4/2009
Remote Name: 68.188.169.226

Comments

I believe the Edmund hatches are the Key elements,she had taken on Water and due to the added weight she was at the mercy of the storm . she broke up due to high swells and went down in two parts ,because the weight was shifting in all direction that was to much for any structure


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Susan Fenlon Koenraads
Location: Netherlands
Email: jeppsueat ziggo.nl
Date: 12/29/2008
Remote Name: 94.209.119.93

Comments

After so many years, I was reading this site and came across a comment that my brother Emmett Fenlon (now living in australia) wrote, I shed a tear the way he wrote with pride about our father and those 29 men. May god be with their families, and with our father and mother


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: j.storrs
Location: upstate new york
Email: dlerkinsstorrs1at rochester.rr co
Date: 12/20/2008
Remote Name: 66.66.96.212

Comments

As an army stevedore serving a ten year period working on fast sea lift vessels.I believe that the fitzgerald fractured her hull passing carabou island,but succumbed to the two large seas berie cooper reported incountering on the anderson.The crew of the fitz by all accounts never knew what hit them.I do feel a tremendous sense of empathy for the surviors of the lost crew,but cant help but to think with the new advances in salvage recovery. Permission would be granted to quell the unanswered questions of why, thus maybe preventing such an occurrence from repeating. All who work or have worked in the Great Lakes are people that are sorely missed in our present times.Selfless individuals undertaking an adherent risk for American Industry.As American as it gets.Ill close by wishing all a safe and happy holiday season,God Bless. J.Storrs.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: Germantown, WI
Email: jculver227at  co
Date: 12/14/2008
Remote Name: 76.229.155.184

Comments

God bless the 29 brave souls who lost their lives when she went down, and their families. I believe she went down after being suspended between two massive waves and breaking in half. The official reports of the investigation blame the crew for not securing the hatches properly, thus allowing water to enter the holds...I wish we knew, but I did see a program illustrating a theory that the bow and stern rode on two 70+ foot waves with nothing supporting the middle of the vessel, causing it to break in half. The Gordon Lightfoot song does stir emotions indeed.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan
Location: Mi
Email: dn_aroat  co
Date: 12/11/2008
Remote Name: 69.14.109.155

Comments

As a person who lived close to Superior, I felt the loss of those men. To this day I always remember that day. The big lake still scares me, and will never venture too far from land. So many have been lost to that lake.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bailey
Location: Ohio
Email:
Date: 12/3/2008
Remote Name: 76.241.114.49

Comments

I think it's sad that all those sailors lost their lives. In the future I hope to study and design ways to make sure boats are safe and reliable.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Roderick Kehlenbeck
Location: Springfield NE
Email: rodkpkrfanhegameat 2-mail co
Date: 12/1/2008
Remote Name: 166.166.20.11

Comments

I was stationed at the Marquette MI Coast Guard station in late 1967 to mid 1968. I remember having radio contact with the Fitz, while standing the mid watch. I also remember seeing it afloat in the upper Presque Isle harbor ore dock. I can always get a lot of conversation with folks when I mention this. It does date me though for sure.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Carl Mottern
Location: Kenmore , New York
Email: aw1cfmotternat  co
Date: 11/21/2008
Remote Name: 76.180.118.137

Comments

I was in Navy basic training at Great Lakes (Waukeegan) Illinois at the time of her loss. I had graduated the previous Friday 11-7, and was looking forward to going home after final out processing a few days later. I recall hearing of the loss of the FITZ, and also recall the lousy cold Wintry weather that hit that weekend. It was all part of the same upper midwest storm system. I will never forget the connection of these personally memorable events for me, and so tragic for the FITZ.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: george
Location: plymouth pa usa
Email:
Date: 11/17/2008
Remote Name: 98.111.1.127

Comments

my uncle francis clark sailed for oglebay norton from the mid 1950's until he was taken ill and had to retire in 1979. he started aboard the ss ben e tate,and worked with and was very good friends with eugene o'brien, wheelsman on the big fitz when it went down.he was to report to the fitzgerald that year 1975, and whatever happened he ended up going to work on the jr sensibar.the loss of the big fitz was very hard for him to take. when he would lay up and come home for the winter, he would talk about it often and always speak highly of his friendship with eugene o'brien.he died in 1981 at the age of 59 and i know he left this world with fond memories of eugene o'brien and all of his brother seafares on the fitzgerald and on the entire great lakes. may all the merchant seamen on the fitzgerald rest in peace.they are all home with god.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Ohio
Email:
Date: 11/11/2008
Remote Name: 64.18.33.150

Comments

33 years now and still we miss our friend. I wish I could know the man he might have been. Nov 10 1975 will always be fresh in my mind.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cap
Location:
Email:
Date: 11/11/2008
Remote Name: 24.247.88.4

Comments

I pray that every one of the people's famaly's aboard the Edmund Fitzgerald are safe at home. By the way... I have heard the song over a thousand times, and the song goes like this... from Gordon Lightfoot: The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald 1976 by Gordon Lightfoot and Moose Music, Ltd. Lyrics: The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee." The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead when the skies of November turn gloomy. With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty, that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed when the "Gales of November" came early. The ship was the pride of the American side coming back from some mill in Wisconsin. As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most with a crew and good captain well seasoned, concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms when they left fully loaded for Cleveland. And later that night when the ship's bell rang, could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'? The wind in the wires made a tle-tale sound and a wave broke over the railing. And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too 'twas the witch of November come stealin'. The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait when the Gales of November came slashin'. When afternoon came it was freezin' rain in the face of a hurricane west wind. When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin'. "Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya." At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said, "Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!" The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril. And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Does any one know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er. They might have split up or they might have capsized; they may have broke deep and took water. And all that remains is the faces and the names of the wives and the sons and the daughters. Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings in the rooms of her ice-water mansion. Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams; the islands and bays are for sportsmen. And farther below Lake Ontario takes in what Lake Erie can send her, And the iron boats go as the mariners all know with the Gales of November remembered. In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed, in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral." The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee." "Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead when the gales of November come early!"


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ian Lambert
Location: United kingdom
Email: ianjayne05at .co.uk
Date: 11/11/2008
Remote Name: 82.17.114.84

Comments

33 years since the edmund fitzgerald and crew perished at this anniversary thinking of the families that left behind, may god rest there souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gary
Location: Buffalo New York
Email:
Date: 11/10/2008
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

Having grown up on Lake Erie - and knowing the mighty power of November gales on the Lakes - my thoughts prayers go to all those souls involved in this tragic event


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott Rice
Location: Indiana
Email: dan_wesson_357
Date: 11/10/2008
Remote Name: 12.177.15.218

Comments

I think the cause of the sinking goes somewhat deeper. I have read reports of re-occuring problems with the keel. Looking at lay-up logs there seem to be more instances of keel work being done than one would expect to see on a boat of the age of the Fitz. A broken keel would cause a hull failure 2/3 back from the stern. This is approximately one of the break points of the Fitz. This type of failure would also explain some of the behavior of the boat in the '75 storm and before. I don't think that the sinking can be ributed 100% to any one cause but normally there are several contributing causes, the boat could probably handle one factor but not multiple factors.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Henry Fayant
Location: Denver,Colorado
Email: denverhankat  ne
Date: 11/10/2008
Remote Name: 75.70.102.102

Comments

Let us continue to remember this sad day in history. Legend will forever be remembered for the best ship that ever sailed the Lakes. May God continue also to bless the survivors and peace to the souls of the lost ones on that day. GL song will be played here today in memory.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ed Minnoe
Location: Hastings Mn.
Email: twcaso7at  co
Date: 11/10/2008
Remote Name: 216.70.54.200

Comments

Let us never forget that on this date 33 years ago,God took home 29 of his children.We may never know the reason why.Maybe it was to show how vulnerable ships were and changes needed to be made.Changes were made to make shipping safer after this tradgedy, so their lives were not lost in vain.I can't begin to imagine the terror that must have been happening that night to each crew member.At what point did they each realize this was it, that they would never see their family and friends again.If you stop and think about it,you realise life is so short and we could be gone at a moments notice.So be sure to love one another and love those of the Edmond Fitzgerald and their familys.And never forget all those that have lost their lives too soon.I will never forget....


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Selena
Location: detroit
Email:
Date: 11/6/2008
Remote Name: 66.227.167.55

Comments

i was at work right next to where the ship sank that day and when i heard what had happened i was devastated by the news i started to cry when i heard the 29 bells of the men that had died and i also like the song of the edmund fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tyman
Location: bay city mi saginaw
Email: alixlocat  co
Date: 11/4/2008
Remote Name: 207.118.233.88

Comments

it was a stormy night that night so thats how it sank. In memory of the brave ones who lost there lives that night of the sinking


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cheryl
Location: North Tonawanda, NY
Email: cabsab5560at verizon ne
Date: 10/31/2008
Remote Name: 72.65.19.88

Comments

Its been almost 38 years and my heart goes out to the families of all the 29 crew. Thank you Gordon Lightfoot - no one will ever forget.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Kumparak
Location: Roosevelt Lake Arizona
Email: homerepair007at tds ne
Date: 10/26/2008
Remote Name: 69.128.161.66

Comments

I always think of the fitz this time of year! To the families I express my deepest sorrow! They have been remembered!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Barry
Location: Idaho Falls,Idaho
Email: whitson4at msn co
Date: 10/15/2008
Remote Name: 63.239.240.97

Comments

"I wonder" who could ever have the right answer, if you were not there. it is a great loss and a great story to one's that have a great imagining, science is good but first hand experience would be helpful would it not? I as a flatlander went through the perals of the great lakes with nights in a green bay hospital. with no experience with the large water who is to know but the 29 sailors Aboard. were a product of god to make a point. i loved every moment on the lakes but am happy to be in Idaho again.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David
Location: Manchester, NH
Email: calico6791at  ne
Date: 10/12/2008
Remote Name: 24.62.170.222

Comments

As we approach the anniversary of this tragedy, let us not forget the 29 brave souls who lost their lives to the witch of November. To those who still make the sea their home I say: May tranquil winds and calm seas be always at your back.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: nick
Location: maine
Email: cookieladytooat  co
Date: 10/3/2008
Remote Name: 72.12.65.132

Comments

the story of the fitz is worse than the titanc


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: john sutton
Location: auckland, new zealand
Email: john sutton1at live co
Date: 9/19/2008
Remote Name: 121.72.172.27

Comments

the fitz was not an old ship, so faulty parts i dont think was the problem, braking in half possibly! maybe cargo shift caused by bad weather caused this. this is my theory, god be with the men and there families


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gina
Location: Ar
Email:
Date: 9/17/2008
Remote Name: 206.196.254.40

Comments

I was eight at the time, although I knew no one on the ship or the families, my heart goes to them. Whatever caused the sinking, it was a tragic event. Gordon Lightfoot just keeps it alive in his song, so noone will ever forget. God speed


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott Terrien
Location: Green Bay, WI
Email: sterrien002at new.rr co
Date: 9/11/2008
Remote Name: 72.129.154.175

Comments

I am now 40 years old. I remember the song from the 3rd grade and always thought it was the most haunting and picturesque song. I too feel strongly connected to this incident even though I don't remember it happening when I was young. I read all I can about the sinking while listening to the song for the 14th time in a row and it still sends chills every time I hear it. I don't know why. Maybe because we all think that it might be the worst way to die. Even my eight year old son is drawn to the incident. Strange.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: joe
Location: cleveland
Email: spider01at cox ne
Date: 9/8/2008
Remote Name: 24.252.246.160

Comments

After seeing pictures from the bottom and trying to visualize all possibilities I offer this suggestion: She had taken on water, faulty hatch or breached hull or both. She was bow heavy, pushed from behind by a large wave, the bow did not rise, the stern did, wave and weight driving the bow into the bottom and as the wave still pushing the stern and lifting it, broke the keel and flung the stern over the submerged portion. This would explain the stern being inverted beyond the bow and the rapidity with which she went down. My sympathies still to the families. May God hold them dear and comfort them always.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: landon
Location: luverne,mn
Email: landocammando34at  co
Date: 9/3/2008
Remote Name: 216.254.253.177

Comments

i would like to give grace to my uncle who died on the edmund fitzergald and no that every time i hear the song i will always think of.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tiara
Location:
Email:
Date: 9/1/2008
Remote Name: 122.161.121.242

Comments

the lord blesses and watch over the families 29 lost may the families find comfort in the king words of strangers, strength


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sam Danigelis
Location: Kansas City, MO
Email: sam_danigelisat  co
Date: 8/13/2008
Remote Name: 12.219.199.79

Comments

As I write, I'm listening to Gordon Lightfoot's haunting tribute to these 29 brave men of so long ago (33 years now). I was in high school in Muskegon, MI at the time. We knew what terrible fury the lakes could hold, and I well remember that night. We could hardly believe it. After years of reading reports, I believe that the rogue wave (we now know they do exist) that the Anderson encountered just minutes earlier came from behind in the dark. The Fitz was already barely afloat from taking on water, and the wave drove her under within seconds. I do believe a contributing cause to be faulty hatch covers. They are large and numerous enough to allow tons of lake water in.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: john
Location: rochester ny
Email: jel2309at  co
Date: 8/12/2008
Remote Name: 66.66.107.15

Comments

My godbless all 29 crew members and the families of the edmund fitzgerald-she is on 1 last run to heaven-gods speed to the big fitz and her crew for she is now sailing in the calm waters of heaven where jesus christ our lord and savior rains true forever


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Howard C. Dobbins
Location: bay City, MI 48706
Email: ddj-451110at sbcglobal ne
Date: 8/10/2008
Remote Name: 75.51.102.167

Comments

I believe it was a combination of events. (1) The stormy weather on her up-bound voyage on Lake Superior. (2) The storm on her down-bound voyage of 11/10/75. (3)30 to 35 foot seas caused her to strike an unmarked shoal off of Caribou, which eventually caused her hull to frature & thus the untimely sinking of the Fitzgerald took place. But only god knows the the whole story.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ed donaldson
Location: dixon
Email: em-donat  co
Date: 7/30/2008
Remote Name: 75.44.132.182

Comments

i was 5 years old on vacation with my family. we stopped at a little town called two harbours and saw the andersen leaving its moorings , little did i know what that ship would be involved in as far as the storm and being that close to the fitz. god take care of those sailors and the ones who were left behind.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom G
Location: Honesdale PA
Email:
Date: 7/26/2008
Remote Name: 71.173.4.209

Comments

My heart goes out to the families of this tragic shipwreck. God bless you all and God Bless America


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael
Location: Bad Axe,Mi
Email: tank75mat  co
Date: 7/24/2008
Remote Name: 71.238.226.4

Comments

The loss of this great ship still touches all of us today. I remember when I was in the Navy, during bootcamp one of the instructers talked about the Edmund Fitzgerald. What he told us that his dad was on the Author Anderson, the rest his history, may the 29 lost rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rich Rose
Location: Illinois
Email: richieroseat  co
Date: 7/2/2008
Remote Name: 70.215.154.227

Comments

The ballad by Gordon Lightfoot is the most incredible tribute to the lost sailors of the good ship Edmund Fitzgerald. May they all RIP


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Eddie
Location: Los Angeles
Email: petitioner98at  co
Date: 7/1/2008
Remote Name: 66.213.36.2

Comments

Gordon Lightfoot so wonderfully told the story of the Edmund Fitzgerald like no other and in the process buoyed our sense of national pride in the face of this profound loss - on the heels of Vietnam. Our hearts embrace the families of the heroes of that great ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Eddie Logan
Location: Graniteville , SC
Email: eddlg3at  co
Date: 6/26/2008
Remote Name: 64.12.116.20

Comments

As for what I think caused the sinking was more than one factor. It was grossly overload. It was taking on water so this means that the hatchs was loss or it was bottom out over a shallow reef , or both .Now the extra water was just extra weight .As for it breaking in two , if it was lifted on both ends with the weight in the middle .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Mortonson
Location: Kent, WA
Email: robertmortonsonat earthlink ne
Date: 6/19/2008
Remote Name: 65.102.119.55

Comments

Originally from Chicago, I knew an Engineer who worked on building these ships. So I followed the story. I think every one has it correct and wrong. It is a combination of events. The wave action may have shifted the cargo, causing a list that would have made the clearance to the shoal less than ideal. Then in a standing wave, a higher than normal peaks and lows because of the storm and the narrowing channel, allowed the Fitzgerald in the trough to bottom hard. This caused a leak in the hull. I assume the clamps were still properly set. With the heaver load from the water leak, it rode the next wave crest and slammed into the bottom harder. The hydrostatic pressure in the ruptured hull was sufficient with cold conditions to stretch the clamps, by fatiguing the metal. Some of the clamps fall away, letting the compressable air out of the hold. With the hold effectively flooded to the weather deck the next down thrust even with or without another bottoming would blow the hatch off and the ship would never see daylight again. I have found every scenario followed with the hmm?, that should not have done it, and then not connect the dots. The nice thing about combining the theory and assuming the clamps broke by the hydrostatic forces is no one is at fault. It is a tragic accident to a competent crew doing the correct things. And the ship was sound. It is reasonable navigation error for type of navigation used, a shoal that in the most sever storms probably moves with the standing wave type action I previously mentioned. Like having that funny wind pern that drops the leaves along line across the drive way. Another big storm would move the bottom again.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: joey lee ''dutch'' verbruggen
Location: appleton,wi
Email:
Date: 6/16/2008
Remote Name: 209.103.213.254

Comments

i was 7 yrs old when the ''big fitz'' sank on 11-10-75 my dad told me joey study about this big ship and don't let her memory die so now i'm doing what i can to keep her going to the next generation don't let her memory die keep her inthe back of your mind forever love the ''big fitz''


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Daniel Paul
Location: geneva,ala
Email:
Date: 6/12/2008
Remote Name: 75.120.94.4

Comments

I think she hit bottom and a hatch cover emploded and she began takeing on water faster than the crew could pump it out. I hope those brave men rest on peace god bless their souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mary
Location: Toledo, OH
Email: frogoladyat  co
Date: 6/10/2008
Remote Name: 205.188.112.170

Comments

We just saw Gordon Lightfoot tonite and as he sang Edmund Fitzgerald, it reminded us of the tragedy. Captain McSorley was from Toledo. God rest the souls of these men...after almost 33 years. they more than deserve peace. They will always be in our prayers.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: August
Location: Michigan
Email:
Date: 6/9/2008
Remote Name: 69.14.143.65

Comments

I am a great lakes sailor. There are several Lake Superior professoanl fishermen who believe the Fitz was the victim of the "Three Sisters." This is a term used to describe three large waves in succesion that overwhelm the vessel. Before the first sea can wash off the deck, the second comes on, then the third. All this weight on the bow causes it to pitch-pole, and go straight down. That explains why there was no SOS or no empt at lifeboats. It all happened too fast. At the time, these fisherman predicted that when it would be found, it would be bow first, buried in the sand, And that's exactly how they found it. Just sharing another theory.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Eric
Location: Virginia
Email: bluridge29at  co
Date: 6/3/2008
Remote Name: 206.248.220.181

Comments

I still remember watching Harry Reasoner's newscast about the "Fitz". As a young boy it fascinated me, as a man, it reminds me that there are some storms in life we can't weather alone or sometimes at all. We can discuss the cause of her sinking from now till Posideion comes, I don't think the reason will mer. I suspect her loss was immediately catastrophic, I am sure her master played fate's cards as best he could, but in the end neither McSorley, the Anderson, or anyone else can undo the fate God destines us to. That being said, I prefer to remember the brave men who sailed her, those who risked their own lives to find her, and the families they leave behind. Psalms 127:23-30


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Steve Rathbun
Location: El Paso,Tx.
Email: landofnod04at  co
Date: 5/29/2008
Remote Name: 72.191.184.81

Comments

I grew up on the shores of Lake Michigan,and shipped out for afew years on the Lakers(I capitolize for love and respect of these great ships)before I enlisted(Navy,of course).The Big Fitz went on eternal patrol on my birthday.It was the worst birthday ever.I cried all day capt.McSorley and the men of the Big Fitz live on in my heart.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ed
Location: lexington mo.
Email: sailorman10452003at
Date: 5/23/2008
Remote Name: 64.85.223.229

Comments

the night the fitz went missing was one of the worst i saw on the lakes. we were downbound on the anderson 10 miles behind her when she was lost.and theres no way the hatch covers were the cause. shew hit bottom on the shoals on our radar bshe was just to close to six fathom shoals. i lost a good friend bruce hudson that night. so to the crew of the fitzgerald . may you have calm seas and fair winds . you will always be in my thoughts and prayers good bye and may god bless you all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Roscoe
Location: Michigan
Email: helpat pwf co
Date: 5/18/2008
Remote Name: 98.209.87.206

Comments

"Celebrating the launch of the S. S. Edmund Fitzgerald" It was a beautiful Saturday afternoon on June 7th, 1958, as more than 10,000 people lined the banks of the Detroit River. They had come to witness the launching of Hull 301 at the Great Lakes Engineering Works of River Rouge, Michigan. Mrs. Edmund Fitzgerald, wife of the president of the Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company for which the ship was named, christened the brand new ship and at 12:34 p.m. the 729 ft. "Edmund Fitzgerald" slid gracefully into the basin amid cheers, salutes, and well wishers. For many of those in endance, it was a spectacle that they would never forget. The shipyard workers who constructed "Big Fitz" felt a deep sense of satisfaction as they anxiously watched the launch of this marvelous vessel. Being a prideful lot, they often endured long hours and harsh conditions. This was their "crowning achievement" and the beauty of their craftsmanship was truly evident to all those present. This year marks the 50th anniversary of that memorable event. It is an opportunity to reflect on and celebrate a joyous time in our lives. It is also a chance to recall the great pride and cherished memories experienced by the ship workers, the community, and all who had the opportunity to witness the launching of the Edmund Fitzgerald. On this historic occasion, let us joyously share our personal stories, renew old friendships, and fondly remember the day when the "Queen Of The Lakes" was born.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan Wiltse
Location: Lake St.Clair/ Detroit
Email: danat wetowdetroit co
Date: 5/17/2008
Remote Name: 68.43.105.21

Comments

Just My Thoughts I have read and followed the theory's of the sinking since I was a young boy. The Fitz was taking on water and listing , that's a fact. The cause of this is speculation. I have footage of similar but modern ship "Selkirk Settler" in similar conditions that shows a modern ship of similar size with no buoyancy problem "stuffing" the bow into a large wave. I think the Fitz was near the sinking point, near a neutral buoyant state when a large wave approached and overtook her from the stern as reported the Anderson. Her forward momentum combined with the propeller thrust drove the Fitz to the bottom, braking in two upon impact with the lake bottom. I think The Fitz at a near neutrally buoyant state could have easily nosed into the water, the relatively flat surface deck would the act as a giant plaining surface guiding the hull to the lake bottom. She lies in 530' of water and at 712' ft in length the water depth is only 71% of her length. If she were standing on end at the bottom of the lake in 530' of water 182' of the ship would be visible above the surface. This mental picture leads me to believe she struck the bottom of the lake with forward momentum and probably still under power causing the ship to break in two upon impact and leaving the debris field between the tow half's. I often think of the ship & crew and wonder what exactly did happen. Every time I saw the Anderson on lake St.Clair I would take time to follow her a way's and reflect on her sister ship and crew. They will always be in my mind Thank You Dan


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Harold
Location: lexington
Email: jennie.jvat  co
Date: 5/11/2008
Remote Name: 69.216.125.168

Comments

I have heard facts about the Edmund Fitzgerald and i feel very sorry for those who had lost loved ones and for the ones that died. God be with you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mike wesolowski
Location: lambertville,michigan
Email: mywezoat verizon ne
Date: 5/5/2008
Remote Name: 71.124.52.95

Comments

I hope peace has come to all those affected by the tragic sinking of the FITZ. I pray for all of you and for all those who have lost their lives on these dangerous lakes. The memory of the Edmund Fitzgerald will be with me always. God bless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Gunderson
Location: Garnd Rapids Mn
Email: gunderson40at msn co
Date: 5/4/2008
Remote Name: 75.163.17.240

Comments

rest in peace my friend of the Great lakes seas.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Gunderson
Location: Grand Rapids Minnesota
Email: gunderson40at msn co
Date: 5/4/2008
Remote Name: 75.163.17.240

Comments

I see a lot of posts here and I am overjoyed that so many take an Interest in this disaster. Here are some good books I suggest. the night the fits went down. the Mighty fitz and the white huricane, about the 1913 storm that took about 275 men down with there ships, through out the great lakes. read on the Daniel J. Morrell on the web, she too broke in two at the surface. but each section sank miles a part from each other. strange anyhow.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Paul
Location: McHenry,Il
Email: severstormat  co
Date: 4/15/2008
Remote Name: 98.206.48.74

Comments

Reading the reports of that day I believe that it ran aground. Also the High waves caused it to sink. God Bless all the 29 sailors and familys!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Guy
Location: Brantford,Ont canada
Email: mylilzooat rogers co
Date: 4/7/2008
Remote Name: 99.247.192.50

Comments

as we approach the anniversary of the fitz wreck to the families left behind your our thoughts and prayers are with you. I was not even aware of this disaster untill today i herd gordon lightfoots song.wow very sad song, really puts into prospective the risk's our father's took to pave the way for our future. those were the real men of yesterday.the people closly affected by this u should be proud of the men who died on that greatlake, i'm filled with a sense of pride and i just herd about it. ahoy and fairwell to the 29 men who died building a life for all of us.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: m e kaine
Location: Weymouth MA
Email: mekaineat  co
Date: 4/4/2008
Remote Name: 24.34.123.121

Comments

I cannot read a book, watch it on TV or listen to Mr. Lightfoot's beautiful song without crying. Blessings to all on the crew and to all who have lost their lives at sea.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: maddie vb
Location: usa
Email:
Date: 3/14/2008
Remote Name: 66.255.194.140

Comments

i think it's very sad that the edmund fitzgerald sunk.its sad that almost 30 people were lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Peter Gross
Location: Thousand Oaks,CA
Email: gm4spdat oadrunner co
Date: 3/10/2008
Remote Name: 75.82.192.24

Comments

I was born and raised in Maine.I have been going to sea since 1967, graduated Maine Maritime 1971.I had forgotten until I heard Gordon Lightfoot recently. I raised eight children and can't imagine the loss of one. My heart felt condolences to the families who lost loved ones. With deepest respect,Peter Gross/Thousand Oaks,CA


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Greg
Location: Ohio
Email:
Date: 3/10/2008
Remote Name: 72.2.81.5

Comments

Never gave a lot of thought until 7 years ago, my wife and I bought a home from a family that had lost a son aboard. During the tour of the home, the previous owner had their sons personal belongings that they had boxed up and put in the basement under an old pool table. Of course, the family removed these items before we took possession. Some nights, while walking the halls of the home, I sometimes have a feeling .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Steve
Location: USA
Email:
Date: 3/3/2008
Remote Name: 192.35.35.35

Comments

These hatches broke under pressure and lead to large amounts of water to be taken in by the ship. The second error was the captain went into shallow waters, where with rough seas, the ship tossing up and down hit a shoal sticking up from the sea floor, thus punching a large hole in the bottom of the ship which set the Edmund Fitzgerald's doom.(these shoals could have been sticking up and only 25 to 50 feet from the seas surface.) If the captain would have stuck to the deeper waters, the ship would have still been able to take on water, but it would have made it's destination.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Cancel
Location: Manchester, NH
Email: calico6791at  ne
Date: 3/1/2008
Remote Name: 24.62.170.222

Comments

As a former sea going Sailor, I salute the brave souls of the mighty Fitz. You have always been and will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers. When I was at sea and in severe stormy weather, I would listen to Lightfoots tribute to you, and for a moment I would be with you. I've felt your fear and I've kissed the face of the "Witch". May gentle winds and calm seas be always at your back. God bless you and may you rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dale Hammer
Location: Klamath Falls, Oregon
Email: Dgermanstat  co
Date: 3/1/2008
Remote Name: 207.200.116.133

Comments

The waters and the weather on "The Lakes" that time of year are deadly,as any Captain or crewman can tell you. Sad though it is,the iron ore seems more important to the big companies than mens' lives. Peace and Prayers for the crew and captain of the Edmund Fitzgerald and for all others making a living on board.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mary
Location: NYC
Email:
Date: 2/16/2008
Remote Name: 24.236.241.61

Comments

I think I know what happened but first Lord take care of the families that losts the love of their lives. okay now i think what happened with all of the cargo on the ship is it all shifted and hit the side hard enough to make a crack in the side and with the pressure of the water is it made a leak then it damaged the shoal and broke in two


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott Menirald
Location: Morristown, New Jersey
Email: badgersrule56at  co
Date: 2/13/2008
Remote Name: 71.187.168.97

Comments

The worst thing about the sinking is the death toll. If just 1 person survived, we might be able to do something about future accidents like that.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Richard
Location: Ft Lauderdale Beach Fl.
Email: JetBlueMusicat  co
Date: 2/12/2008
Remote Name: 64.12.116.20

Comments

She got caught at the top of two gigantic waves with nothing to support her midship and she broke in half God Bless The Officers and Crew...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Patrick
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Email:
Date: 2/9/2008
Remote Name: 75.162.76.185

Comments

Gods Speed


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ryan Parry
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Email: ryanp83at  co
Date: 2/5/2008
Remote Name: 99.240.72.142

Comments

I recently had a dream about the Edmund Fitzgerland and was deeply touched with the loss. It was big ship lost in the Great Lakes and my condolences go out to the families of the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: caleb sullivan
Location:
Email: motorboy87at  co
Date: 1/29/2008
Remote Name: 168.9.42.206

Comments

it was very tragic


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: noah
Location: princeville illinois
Email: 385 1980
Date: 1/28/2008
Remote Name: 66.99.64.66

Comments

bless the well seasoned crew for that one dreadful night


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kathy Spillman-Richey
Location: Wendover, UT
Email: richeykmat  co
Date: 1/28/2008
Remote Name: 208.66.10.217

Comments

The loss of the "Fitz" and it's crew was such a tragedy for everyone . God Bless all those left behind.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Metzger
Location: Yucca Valley, CA
Email:
Date: 1/26/2008
Remote Name: 71.102.14.40

Comments

Does any one know where the love of God goes, When the waves turn the minutes to hours? The searches all say they'd have made whitefish bay, If they'd put fifteen more miles behind her. They might have split up or they might have capsized; May have broke deep and took water. But all that remains is the faces and the names, Are the wives and the sons and the daughters.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: brian
Location: san fransico bay area
Email:
Date: 1/25/2008
Remote Name: 24.5.130.155

Comments

i think the lady ' o the lake got her when she was lifted up by 2 huge swells at  either end and snapped amidships considering all that weight she was carrying & the many years of stress & strain from the seas bering her. the captain & crew were tough, fine men. a shame to lose them. god rest their souls at the bottom ' o the lake.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bree
Location: Jamestown, MI
Email:
Date: 1/21/2008
Remote Name: 69.221.231.21

Comments

I had to do a presentation on this topic for school it was very hard for me to talk about it up front when I knew so much about it and it was very close to my heart. May God bless the families who lost loved ones remember that they are happier in heaven!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Barton
Location: Washington, D.C.
Email: bartonjaat erols co
Date: 1/20/2008
Remote Name: 216.15.47.167

Comments

May the souls of all those who died rest in peace and their families be consoled. The sinking is yet another reminder of the power of nature in general and Lake Superior in particular.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: patsy
Location: louisville,ky
Email:
Date: 1/19/2008
Remote Name: 74.130.140.20

Comments

Ive heard about this story since I was 16.It always saddens my heart when I remember about it or hear Gordan Lightfoots song. I used to live in the next town from ST. Joseph called Stephensville in Michigan when I was 16.My heart goes out to all the loved ones of the crew. God bless you all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Phil & Lou
Location: Wgtn. NZ
Email: philouat paradise ne.nz
Date: 1/13/2008
Remote Name: 121.73.83.217

Comments

We are sorry for the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald and her crew. We are fans of Gordon Lightfoot and became interested in the journey of the great ship because of his song. "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." As we are surrounded , as a country by sea, ships and our fascination of Shipwrecks we have a serious interest of The Great Ship Edmund Fitzgerald!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jill and Callie
Location: Glenwood,MN
Email:
Date: 1/11/2008
Remote Name: 64.8.175.105

Comments

We think that the ship was so over loaded with supplies that the ship got caught in a big storm and the waves filled it with so much water that the ship sank with all the weight


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Erik
Location: Bloomington MN
Email:
Date: 1/6/2008
Remote Name: 64.12.116.20

Comments

May God bless the Edmund Fitzgerald in it's final resting place and bless the families who lost a loved one as a result of this tragedy.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joseph Woodcock
Location: South Shields England
Email: joseppieat .co.uk
Date: 1/6/2008
Remote Name: 77.101.205.201

Comments

I was so moved and tearful by what i've seen and read about that terrible night. I've often read or been told stories of heroism, but those men were the epitome of what heroism is all about. One cannot imagine what it was like on that fateful night for those people. I can only imagine that the Edmund Fitzgerald possibly, took in water and then eventually, that great ship broke in two. God rest their souls and they will all be immortalized, for what they had to endure. Regards Joseph


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Xanadu
Location: Detroit, MI
Email: anymousat  co
Date: 1/5/2008
Remote Name: 69.14.173.12

Comments

My father spent his life working on the Great Lakes and always insisted from the beginning that she bottomed out. A guy came out with a compelling video, the final chapter. The cause of this disaster must be determined because it may save lives. That is just my humble opinion but if the loved ones and survivng members wish to stop further dives and explorations, then we must honor that. That could have been my father. If that were the case, I would want to know what caused the tragedy in the hopes that another one may be prevented.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nick Arlinghaus
Location: Burlington Ky
Email: nick.narlinghausat  co
Date: 12/31/2007
Remote Name: 67.109.183.25

Comments

The sad story of the fitzgerald is very true. I am a fan of shipwrecks and lots of them sunk for a reason. But some of them just sunk for no reason like the Brittanic. So the song by Gordan Lightfoot tells a sad and true story.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dona
Location: austin
Email: minisuperdonaat  co
Date: 12/26/2007
Remote Name: 68.240.145.48

Comments

the cook said it's been nice to know ya


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Paul Robinette
Location: Granville ND
Email: paulat robinette co
Date: 12/24/2007
Remote Name: 216.221.120.241

Comments

I still remember the night she went down. I was stationed at Kincheloe AFB and I was in Sault Ste. Marie to pick up my wife from work. The streets were flooded, the wind howling and the temperature dropping like a rock. Then on the way home we heard on the radio that there was a ship reported to be in trouble. A bad night. God rest their souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Altemus
Location: Excelsior, Minnesota
Email: altemusjat msn co
Date: 12/22/2007
Remote Name: 71.220.11.218

Comments

I believe the cargo shifted. I also believe that the fitz bow and stern were riding up on waves with no support in the mid ship. I worked on the Roger Blough and the Cason J Calloway back in the early 90s. My Son Jake also believes that she broke in two. Bless those 29 brave sailors.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Paul Johnson
Location: Fincastle VA
Email: mrmajest1kat  co
Date: 12/20/2007
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

did not realize she was that old--was under the impression she was newer. served in the USN on destroyers, doubt the collisions with the docks etc contributed. rogue wave yep hatches yep, have seen recent studies on super waves interesting/saddening.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris
Location: Montreal,Qc,Canada
Email: FiddlinFiddlerat  co
Date: 12/19/2007
Remote Name: 67.212.12.85

Comments

In late summer of 1998, my brother and I did a cross Canada road trip.We spent about a week and a half exploring the Canadian shores of lake Superior,as we were fascinated and energized by what we were looking at.At one point we just had to see the famous Indian paintings at Lake Superior Provincial Park.So,there we were in the parking lot, when a park ranger approached us to tell us not to go down to the shoreline as the waters were unusually rough,and that someone had been swept away and drowned 2 days before we had arrived. Being the fearless young men that we were,we brushed off the warning with a shrug and waited until he had left,then we set off for the shoreline and the paintings.Well,the ranger was right,the waters were very rough and the swells were bigger than anything i had seen with my own eyes.Being fearless(naive) young men,we went down to the paintings.We thought"What the heck!",the waters are not coming within 150 feet of the rock face where the paintings are.We'll be OK,so we thought.We spent about 2 hours down there enjoying the clear sunny day without incident.At some point my brother took off up the shoreline while i stayed at the paingings examing them close up.With my back to the lake,i decided to ignore the big sign that says,"Do not touch the paintings!".So what do i do,i put my hand out and touch one of the paintings.At that very moment i faintly hear my name on the wind.It was my brother 100 or so meters away, screaming my name and waiving his arms gesturing for me to look behind me.Talk about adrenaline overdose!What i saw was a wall of water coming straight for me.You've never seen a man go from 0 to 60 like i did.I was able to get out of the way of the worst of it,but i knew that i was gonna take some of it.Impact was imminent!I dug my fingers into a crack in the stone rock face and prayed.Wham!i was smashed up against the wall and then the lake tried to take me back out into the swells.Luckily it only got me up to my waist.Had my dear brother not gotten my ention,i would have been hit by a wall of water the same height as me and i never would have seen it coming.When i got back up to where the placards were describing the meaning of each of the paintings,i immediately read the one for the painting that i had touched.That particular painting represented the spirit of lake Superior.Just my luck!I had a newfound respect. A few years later i heard Gordon Lightfoots tribute to the Edmund Fitsgerald,and i got all choked up as i listened to him describing the events of that evening.As i listened,i remembered how that same lake almost took me to her ice water mansion. My uncle,who is now retired,was a fairly high ranking officer in the Canadian navy.Long ago,he told me"Regardless of a mans religious beliefs or lack of,on dry land,you will never find an atheist on your ship when the seas are angry."I now fully understand what he meant.May god be with all of you brave sailors!God bless the men of the Edmund Fitzgerald and their loved ones.Godspeed!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rickie McKee
Location: College Park , GA. 30349
Email: truevine28at  co
Date: 12/19/2007
Remote Name: 149.101.1.132

Comments

I had heard the song when i was in high school little did I know what the source of it was. I have a new meaning for the song and the loss of these brave men and their families. I have faith that God has touched and will continue to touch and bless the families of these great seamen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jean Marc Pierpont
Location: Ontario
Email: redtail1at canada co
Date: 12/17/2007
Remote Name: 68.179.111.197

Comments

Lake Superior they say never gives up her dead when the storms of November come early. Death came fast that night as efg power dove for the bottom, driven by a raging great lake. Why leave port with a weather report like that?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Guillermo Garron
Location: Santa Cruz / Bolivia (South America)
Email:
Date: 12/15/2007
Remote Name: 200.87.59.2

Comments

May these men be with God, and Rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: edward hale
Location: pearl river la
Email: edwardwesleyhale1977at excite co
Date: 12/15/2007
Remote Name: 68.114.105.42

Comments

i feel as if maybe the ship broke in half due to what is known on the atlantic ocean as a rouge wave it is possible considering the night it went down it was storming and the waves on the great lakes do get pretty big during a storm and all ships particulary tankers are weaker in the middle or midships the ship was longer than the lake was deep at that spot and just by chance that it did hit bottom of the lake in the storm it would have caused so much stress in the center that she would have snapped in the way that she did giving no soul a chance to escape therefore the reason as to why there was no survivors. ship builders need to find a way to strengthen the midships better then ships like the edmund fitzgerald would take such a loss as they do currently


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: James M Jackson
Location: St. Clair Shores, Michigan
Email: klaatubarataniktohat  co
Date: 12/14/2007
Remote Name: 67.149.180.130

Comments

I've always been fascinated by this tragic mystery and being I've snowmobiled to Whitefish Point on numerous occasions and looked out into Lake Superior it's makes you wonder about the circumstances that caused the "Fitz" to sink. I would be very useful if someone could possible show a diagram/anatomy of the ships structure, such as where the vents, radar and crane are located. Sectional views of the ship to show ballast tanks, holding areas, pumps and where the hatch combings & covers, pilot house, fly bridge, life boats, etc are located. What was the distance from the waterline to the hatch covers? I feel this would be very helpful for the general public to understand what, where and how these features may have played into the Edmund Fitzgeralds chain of events that led to her sinking. To some of us starboard is port and port is starboard. Hope to hear from ya and thanks. James


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tom gibbon
Location: apollo,pa
Email:
Date: 12/14/2007
Remote Name: 71.60.70.120

Comments

I am an avid fisherman and everytime I go out on my boat I can't help but think of the those brave men who lost their lives.To the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald-R.I.P.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ellen
Location:
Email:
Date: 12/12/2007
Remote Name: 12.176.239.98

Comments

Nobody really knows what happened to the Fitzgerald, but I think it might have been a leak in the storm on Lake Superior.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Shelly
Location: QCA, Iowa
Email: pvswimmer007at  co
Date: 12/5/2007
Remote Name: 12.202.38.59

Comments

I hope that the ship is one day found and I am very sorry about the men. One day I want to figure out the mystery of the Edmund Fitzgerald! I will find out


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Larry W.
Location: Alma, Michigan
Email:
Date: 12/3/2007
Remote Name: 68.188.226.79

Comments

I was only 8 the night the mighty "Fitz" went down, but I do remember the newscast, and the terrible loss of life. I think the 2 huge rogue waves are what did her in. We all know the Fitz was having alot of problems all throughout that day and into the evening. When Cpt. Cooper of the Anderson reported that those 2 huge waves hit his ship 35 feet above the waterline, put water over the top of his pilothouse, and hit with enough force to damage his lifeboats, I figure those waves rolled down the lake and struck the already damaged Fitz, who was also running blind and with a bad list to port. Those brave crewmen never had a chance. And to be so close to the relative safety of Whitefish Bay, only to have the ship bust apart and take them to he bottom, that in itself is a tragedy. May they all R.I.P.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: caroline
Location: glendale wisconsin,
Email: cpj170065at  co
Date: 11/26/2007
Remote Name: 199.233.86.254

Comments

this was quite the tragedy. whitefish bay village erected a monument to this famous ship. it can be read if you go to atwater park in milwaukee,wisconsin . to get their it is at the end of capital drive going east. p.s. the son of this ship is one of my favorites. caroline


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Destiny
Location: Ironwood Mi,
Email: destiny_miller4797at  co
Date: 11/25/2007
Remote Name: 24.213.6.48

Comments

I feel so bad for the people on the ship. It is so weird how none of the bodies were fond and I am sorry for the reliteves and freinds who lost them in there lives.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Quigley
Location: Willoughby, OH
Email: poitinmfqat  co
Date: 11/23/2007
Remote Name: 76.188.196.32

Comments

My Dad worked as a mechanic for Ohio Machinery (now Ohio CAT) back in 1975. He and a co-worker were on their way up to meet the Fitz before they sailed to work on her bow thrusters before she laid up for the winter. Because of the storms, they decided to wait in Toledo and meet her in Detroit when she docked. Of course, she never arrived. Dad is still a bit shook about it even after 32 years. But for the grace of God, there would have been 31 souls lost instead of 29 that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Blaze
Location: Madison, WI
Email:
Date: 11/15/2007
Remote Name: 205.213.111.51

Comments

32 years ago! I can't believe it. RIP


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Richard Hemingway
Location: United Kingdom
Email: richyhemat  co
Date: 11/15/2007
Remote Name: 195.93.21.100

Comments

God rest those 29 souls and God bless their families. I developed an affinity with the Edmund Fitzgerald after hearing Gordon Lightfoot's song in 1979. The haunting lyrics grabbed me. I only found out a few years later that it was a true story. The E.F. went down 2 years after I went to sea myself. I have now been a captain of small vessels for 23 years. I reckon she went down due to metal fatigue causing her to break up. Due to low temperatures, the age of the vessel, stresses over the years of loading and unloading and finally the period of the waves, all conspiring on that fateful night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: junye
Location: Lansing
Email:
Date: 11/14/2007
Remote Name: 216.157.206.209

Comments

It's so sad


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Pete
Location: Iron, MN
Email: pjramfjordat  co
Date: 11/12/2007
Remote Name: 75.104.96.39

Comments

I have read just about all the facts and reports about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald. I think the Coast Guards hatch cover theory is not justified. I don't think she shoaled by Caribou Island on Six Fathom Shoal. I would have to agree with Capt. Dudley Paquette, a vet of the Great Lakes with Inland Steels Fleet, he was out on the lake that night on the Sykes. He thinks the Fitz had a structural problem in the hinge area just fore of the aft superstructure( Right were the Fitz split in half), possibly due to a loose keel, that had been fixed twice in Fraser Shipyards and was due to be taken care of during the winter layup of that year when the boat was supposed to be lengthened. The keel is the backbone and gives it most of it's strength. If the boat was working (twisting) to much due to the heavy load and the storm throwing it around, the hinge area may have had to much stress and broke. This would cause the boat to break in two, the stern would have rolled over due to the torque of the spinning propeller, the bow section would fill with water and make it nose dive like it did. With the stern section (engineering) severed from the ship, the fore section would have been without power. Thats why there was not a distress call. It is a very sad thing that happened, none of us will ever know exactly what happened that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ben
Location: minnasota
Email:
Date: 11/12/2007
Remote Name: 64.131.35.197

Comments

I think it was a very big loss for the United States and Minnesota.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Youngstown
Email: Youn_cxrat access-k12 co
Date: 11/12/2007
Remote Name: 64.18.33.150

Comments

Another year has come and gone and it is still so fresh in my mind. I remember seeing the ship for the last time when it was docked in the Ashtabula Harbor just days before she sank. It was such a big and impressive boat. In my minds eye I still see it sitting there . The sinking of this ship was probably the most memorable event in my life. The young friend we lost will be remembered always. I named my son after him and I saved all of the newpaper clippings and books and articles for him. It hurts even today


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: lily
Location: Richmond, MI
Email: buddyboo95at  co
Date: 11/12/2007
Remote Name: 68.61.186.47

Comments

I feel really bad for the people who had died on the ship. God bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Marty
Location: Illinois
Email: badgwisat  co
Date: 11/12/2007
Remote Name: 68.72.125.24

Comments

I am a proud uncle, who has a nephew that was born on the aniversary of the date. God bless the 29 souls of the Fitzgearld


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Susan
Location: St. Louis
Email: girlcat830at  co
Date: 11/11/2007
Remote Name: 69.153.170.124

Comments

I was 12 when she sank; I've always been haunted and fascinated by the Fitz. It was the first contemporary shipwreck I knew about in my lifetime. I remembered she sank in November, but not the exact date. Today, November 11, 2007, five cargo ships have sunk on the Black and Azov seas. Environmental disaster has occurred--they carried oil and sulphur. At least two sailors have died. my thoughts turned to the Fitz, and I was shocked to be reminded she sank 32 years ago yesterday. We have pirates in the Mediterranean and elsewhere. We have huge ships sinking on a massive scale due to weather. It is a humbling reminder that the sea is still in charge.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: C Goodspeed
Location: Buffalo NY
Email: acaciavetat  co
Date: 11/11/2007
Remote Name: 205.188.116.20

Comments

God bless may the angels watch over all the ones left behind.I was stationed on the CGC Acacia in Port Huron 1967 to 1971,used to sit on the ship and watch her roll by.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Andrew J.
Location: Texarkana,Tx
Email: johnmann404at  co
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 24.117.229.221

Comments

Godspeed to all the crew and to the friends and families. This is such an interesting and fascinating story.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dave
Location: Prospect Heights IL
Email:
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 75.4.141.108

Comments

These men are heros. They did not give up the ship. As a sailor that is drilled into your head. Never give up. These men died at their posts. Doing what they could to keep her going under impossible odds. Thats a hero to me. God bless the brave men of Fitzgerald their families and all who have fallen before them. Rest in peace shipmates.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rev. Vern Holton
Location: New Boston, MI
Email: farmallat chartermi ne
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 24.231.216.72

Comments

May all the lost rest-in-peace. My whole family works on the Great Lakes. "Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours."


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ed
Location: lexington mo
Email:
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 150.199.112.57

Comments

its been 32 years since the big Fitz was lost. i was on the lake that night.we were 10 miles behind the Fitz. and there was not one of us. who didnt have tears in their eyes. there was no way we could have helped the the brave crew. till this day the thoughts and prayers are with the crew and families of the Fitz. and i will always remember my good friend Bruce Hudson. my the crew always have calm seas and fair winds.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan Miller
Location: Long Beach, CA
Email: saljd4meat  co
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 71.189.201.135

Comments

G.. Bless all lost their lives on the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Todd Johnson
Location: Eau Claire,Wi
Email: cheesehead032067at  co
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 68.187.92.242

Comments

I remember the night the Edmund Fitzgerald sunk because i was 8 years old at the time and my family and I were driving back from the minn airport after taking my cousin to catch a flight. I remember we were driving east on I-94 and my dad was going about 5 mph because he couldnt see the road and all of us kids (4)kids were really scared. My mom was trying to calm us down so my dad could drive. what is about a 1hour 30 min. trip turned into about a 6 hour trip home that night.The song the wreck of the Edmund fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot has alot of meaning to me just because my family was also in danger that night, not as much as the men that lost there lives but still really scary. may them men rest in peace and may God be with there familys. I will never forget them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeff Klein
Location: Gettysburg, PA
Email:
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 71.58.137.124

Comments

It's been 32years to the day that we lost the Big Fitz. Though not related to any crew members aboard the ship, I have always felt a connection to it in some small way. As a little kid, my Grandfather and I would sit along the St. Clair River at Port Huron and watch the freighters go by. I know that one of those passing ship had to have been the Fitzgerald. When we go to Michigan to visit relatives and friends this tragic event never leaves my mind. In the past few years I was able to visit Whitefish Point to to see the Soo Locks. Late this summer I finally laid eyes on the Arthur M. Anderson. Have we learned our lessons, saftey should always come first. I believe the sailors of today understand this and won't forget what this day means to them. Now when I get back to MI, I realize that life may go on and that memories never float away thanks to my Grandfather.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Speedy
Location: New Orleans
Email:
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 70.171.64.165

Comments

Lord please be with all there families and friends as they are now watching over us.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Maria
Location: aurora, il
Email: avemaria47at  co
Date: 11/10/2007
Remote Name: 76.203.10.81

Comments

Can't believe this happened! God bless the families of the crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: john
Location: jacksonville fl.
Email: jrbfla55at  co
Date: 11/9/2007
Remote Name: 72.154.75.44

Comments

I lived on lake Erie for 19 years, and when i moved to Florida, all i heard was "you sailed on those little puddles?" Well i took one of them sailing on a "puddle" called Lake Erie, on a moderately rough day, and he was scared so badly, he wont get on another boat. God Bless the Crew and families on this anniv.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Adrianna
Location: Michigan
Email: amj1026at  ne
Date: 11/9/2007
Remote Name: 69.246.24.114

Comments

It is so sad that some kids lost their fathers in this horrible wreck. But it is also very interesting that the ship sunk in less than 10 seconds! I found the story of the Edmund Fitzgerald very interesting and the 29 crew mates to be brave people!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jai
Location: Grand Blanc, MI
Email: shylildarlin68yah
Date: 11/9/2007
Remote Name: 216.138.152.254

Comments

The Lord Bless and watch over the families of those 29 lost. May the families find comfort in the kind words of strangers, strength in the arms of family and may they be at peace as the anniversary again approaches. GL created an amazing song about a powerful boat so that she'd be remembered in the way she deserved. We should appreciate the waters of the Great Lakes and be aware of their power. May those that lost their lives on other ships be remembered as well.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Valery
Location: Riverside, CA
Email: vknightmvusd.k12.
Date: 11/7/2007
Remote Name: 76.175.199.104

Comments

I was stationed in MI at the time and this was one of the saddest times I can remember. I often want to go back to visit and see the memorial bell. God Bless the families of the lost ones and may they rest in piece.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jason Hewad
Location: Augusta Maine
Email: gangster kid 246
Date: 11/6/2007
Remote Name: 216.161.120.237

Comments

God bless All of the men and families of the Fitz


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris Conforte
Location: Grosse Pt Woods ,Mi
Email: cconfor1vist
Date: 11/6/2007
Remote Name: 12.153.240.74

Comments

The sinking of the E.F. I think had a combination of problems 1. overloaded 2. Hatches leaking and 3.hitting the shoals. To all the brave men on that ship RIP.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David
Location: Antioch, illinois
Email: bluebikerboy06yah
Date: 11/6/2007
Remote Name: 66.240.57.87

Comments

I just heard about it and it sounds like a terrible thing that happened and I'm sorry to those who lost love ones and for there suffering.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: julie
Location: albany,n.y.
Email: gmiller17nycap.rr
Date: 11/5/2007
Remote Name: 74.76.221.2

Comments

A terrible tragedy and our prayers go out to the men on the big fitz. I feel a structural defect along with the stress which was created by this tremendous storm lead to the ship breaking in two.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kennedy Dixon
Location: Westland' Michigan
Email: noflybird123.com
Date: 11/5/2007
Remote Name: 69.14.104

Comments

God bless the workers & the captin. I give my love out to the people that were on the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sean
Location: Holland,MI
Email: ssmurraysbcglobal.net
Date: 11/5/2007
Remote Name: 76.235.218

Comments

This by far as a little boy was my favorite ship and still is today. Upon hearing it sank I was deeply sadden. The most current theory of the wreck may be ributed to a Rogue Wave; a phenomenon only recently understood and studied by scientists. May the Captain and Crew rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John
Location: Michigan
Email:
Date: 11/3/2007
Remote Name: 75.193.19.180

Comments

I remember that day well. I lived in Marquette, MI at that time, and earlier in the day everyone was driving down to the upper harbor to watch the huge Lk Superior waves crashing over the breakwall. I believe there were 3 ships hiding in port. That night, at the same time the ship went down, I was at the movies with a date. The next day I heard on the news that the ship had gone missing, and the following day I got a call from one of my friends that another friend of mine, Tom Bentsen, had been onboard the Fitz. I have been sailing for 27 years now, on oceans and the Lakes, and I know well the power of the sea. God rest all the souls of sailors lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nicholas Arlinghaus
Location: bulington,ky 41005
Email: momto2fuse
Date: 10/27/2007
Remote Name: 74.129.14.152

Comments

My dad was three months old when she sank. God bless those who died on the Edmund and their families.

 


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: bill
Location: camden sc
Email: merlyngray 
Date: 10/25/2007
Remote Name: 165.166.152.182

Comments

the fitz was one of the ships i worked on, now that most of the people are dead, i can now tell what i know. i worked on the fitz in the ship yard. i know something was done to the frams that should have not been done, check the frames look to see if the frames were welded or rivits were replaced, the frames were cut and then welded, they did not sister frame them, they were cut out and new ones welded in i was young at the time and did not have a good idea of ship building, now i know what i saw and did caused the ship to break in hhalf., by the way when the fitz lost both radars , thats when the power from aft of the boat was pulled apart, if you look up where the power cable were ran you will know she broke up from bottom to top. radio's would have a backup power supply


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: will
Location: madoc.on
Email: grizzlt-boi 
Date: 10/22/2007
Remote Name: 64.228.220.13

Comments

I truly think that the main hatchway gave way we are studying this and the blueprint for this boat have me thinking this may god have peace on their souls!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Captain Jamie DesRuisseau
Location: Barnegat Light, NJ
Email: sales  jscsportscollectibles
Date: 10/20/2007
Remote Name: 68.37.124.61

Comments

From a man who Capatins a vessel a fraction of the size Godspeed mates the sea can be violent and unforgiving. As many before ye gone but never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Wm Andrews
Location: Rochester, IN
Email: Profwmandrews 
Date: 10/19/2007
Remote Name: 216.223.173.45

Comments

These comments are intended to give some better, rest in peace for family members. The results are my findings and answer from the accident, and offer a 80% better conclusion to it. I strongly feel the ship builders were not at fault in the accident by design...The over all length of the ship in extreme weather is what twisted the ship to start leaking and adding liquid volume mass. ( The long heavy ship in a extreme wavy water, caused a twisting Hydraulic water waves on the haul ) After hours of this kind of extreme twisting pressure waves led to tragic...( Out of the ordinary weather ) Here is something to think about. If you take a hollow mass and fill with heavy object and float it in water, you are creating a Hydraulic mass pressure on water.( Hydraulic pressure is one of the greatest types of energy )


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike S.
Location: Salisbury, NC
Email: mshue  salisbury
Date: 10/14/2007
Remote Name: 166.82.136.204

Comments

I am a US Navy vet, joining 3 years after the loss of the Fitz. Every time I hear the haunting, eerie ballad, I think back to my days at sea and to other tragedies; Titanic, Andrea Dorea, Thresher, Scorpion, and many, many others. To lose one's life while merely trying to make a living is indeed tragic. To all those men and women who go down to the sea at some point in their lives, a great big Bravo Zulu to one and all. And whether or not you believe in an Almighty, I recall the last lines of the Navy Hymn- "Oh hear us when we cry to thee, for those in peril on the sea." God bless to each and every crew member and their families on the Fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tim yates
Location: aberdeen
Email: tim_yates11 
Date: 10/3/2007
Remote Name: 67.170.125.125

Comments

I can see the hatches more likley than any other.I am also an engineer on an alaskan vessel and it takes just the smallest leak. it also could have took a good hit flexing the hull and then springing the hatches but any way you look at it the hatches had to leak and as many hatches as she has it only takes one leak and its pretty much over in rough seas. then im sure it broke in half.my regards to the familys. tim


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Shelby
Location: MD
Email: johbie269 
Date: 9/25/2007
Remote Name: 71.179.25.6

Comments

I learned the song a long time ago when I was in school. Every time I hear this song I almost cry. God bless the men who died, God bless their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Terri
Location: Northern Wisconsin
Email: enchanted_princess1 
Date: 9/17/2007
Remote Name: 204.10.46.254

Comments

There are defining moments in time where you remember where you were and what you were doing when something occurred. The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald is one of those for me. I often think of that night as I sat glued to the TV, baby-sitting a sleeping toddler. I was mesmerized at the news reports as they rolled in covering the story. Even today, I hear the Gordon Lightfoot song and shiver.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob Smith
Location: Northeast PA.
Email: Pasmitty2000 
Date: 9/11/2007
Remote Name: 162.66.50.2

Comments

I just read a story about a ship named The Cyprus which was very similar(to a fault) that also sunk in Lake Superior. I can't beleive with all I have read about the 'The Fitz' that a comparsion has never been done and published. The two ships even have a similar appearance. The faulty hatch theory was applied along with the bottoming out theory. The final theory was that the Cyprus doomed by a faulty rudder an inability to stay out of deep troughs.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rob Jefferson
Location: Stevensville, Maryland 21666
Email: wrjcpa  friend.ly
Date: 9/4/2007
Remote Name: 69.72.2.71

Comments

I do not know the reason that the tragedy of the Edmund Fitzgerald has fascinated me...but it has and continues to do so. One of my personal goals is to visit the memorial site to pay my ribute to the EF's 29 men and all sailors that have been lost at sea.My thanks to Gordon Lightfoot for memorializing the event with his electrifying ballad "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzerald" so that the ship and its legend will never be forgotten. I keep the picture "Every Man Knew" over my desk and the Edmund Fitzgerald commemorative knife on display on top of my filing cabinet...and these things I keep to remind me of that tragic night of November 10, 1975 and, also that, in the struggle of man against nature, nature always wins in the end. God bless those 29 brave sailors and those who love them. May they forever rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: andrew eaton
Location: muskegon mi
Email: johneaton2006 
Date: 8/29/2007
Remote Name: 71.205.233.254

Comments

Why does a song of a sinking ship haunt a 7 year old a the time. Now 40 I embrase the song of and stories that surround a terrific loss. Why god would need this ships contents is a true mystery? It would be an honor to capture this story of true courage to a visual memorial someday. A first time writter but always get goosepumps when I hear Gordons tribute. A lost is an item misplaced, a loss love will continue to be misplaced and never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Debra Miller
Location: Poulsbo, WA
Email: myrie  embarqmail
Date: 8/18/2007
Remote Name: 71.54.199.228

Comments

I just recently heard the Gordon Lightfoots song about the ship, and I my thoughts and Prayers are with the families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ray Vanark
Location: Milwaukee WI
Email: rvanark  charter
Date: 8/18/2007
Remote Name: 68.191.177.152

Comments

I was just a boy when the fitz went down, however, I remember it well. My mother was a good friend of one of the officers (Armogust). My parents ate breakfast on that ship. I have done a lot of research on this great ship and like so many others I have always felt a connection to her and the families left behind. The cook that went down with the Fitz was not the cook that was supposed to be on her. The original cook had to stay home with stomach ulcers. This was a fascinating freighter and for many years, she was the largest to sail our beloved great lakes. 10 minutes before she went down, she told the Anderson that she was holding her own, however, with no radar, they could not tell how close they were to six fathom shoals. I believe the ship wrecked in those shoals, however, whats done is done. It is really no longer important to know why she went down, it doesn't change the fact that we should never forget the brave men who we lost on that cold Nov. day and the families today that we need to continue to pray for. I am grateful that Gordon Lightfoot recorded a song on her to help expose her glory and that our good neighbors and friends in Canada have just as much passion for her birth and loss as we do. God Bless the families of the Fitz and mat her crew always rest in peace. Ray


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Suzanne W Hinderliter
Location: Mount Carmel, IL
Email: suz_hin918  msn
Date: 8/18/2007
Remote Name: 68.238.4.161

Comments

As a young teen, I was instantly racted to the beautiful, yet eerie song by Gordon Lightfoot. A couple of years later, my Dad and Mom took us on a vacation through Michigan and through the Locks and Dams, and on into Canada. I got the privilege to go thru a model of The Edmund Fitzgerald (I guess it had to be the Shipwreck Museum...I really don't remember that part), but I do remember feeling that same eerie feeling; a sadness that is hard to describe. God Bless All the Crew and the Families of The Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bobijo Speerstra
Location: leavittsburg ohio
Email: drownrat 
Date: 8/13/2007
Remote Name: 65.41.206.55

Comments

I have often thought that the loss of the edmund fitzgerald was do to a combination of things. Overloading of the ship, inentive crew, loss of radar, and plain rotten luck. I think the ship broke deep with an oncoming wave and was then struck by another wave, twisting the ship, obliterating the mid section and plunging the ship to the bottom.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jason stringfellow
Location: mobile,Al
Email: gascap01 
Date: 8/11/2007
Remote Name: 66.60.232.230

Comments

I was born in dec. of 1969, I was just a boy when the "FITZ" went down. I often think of the sailors in all oceans, lakes, seas and rivers who have lost their lives doing what they loved. I work offshore 150 miles out in the gulf of mexico and I see ships of all kinds and I pray they all make it to safe harbour,and I pray for the ones who were lost. God bless you all and may find peace and safe harbour in the arms of the Lord.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Gunderson
Location: Grand rapids Minnesota
Email: gunderson40 
Date: 7/21/2007
Remote Name: 71.214.146.33

Comments

I had an uncle on the lakes on the Wilfred Sykes. He told me the lake can be very unforgiving. although he was not out the night this happened, the ship he was stationed on was, It had turned around and headed for taconite harbor for safe refuge. the crew though heard the radio transmissions between the U.S.C.G the Fitz and the anderson. I bought a large print of the Fitz and hangs in My bedroom today. I am Entranced by this story because it went down so quick and with out a sound of mayday. I don't wonder how she went down or why? but seeing Superior and her waves I can now belive that this lake demands respect. My prayers forever go with the lost crew and the families. God bless the crews of all great lakes ships sailing today and everyday.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: LJ & CB
Location: Lower Michigan
Email:
Date: 7/16/2007
Remote Name: 198.109.198.2

Comments

My husband and I were visiting the Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point this weekend. How amazing There is so much history available there and now we both have a better understanding of what happened to the Edmund Fitzgerald. We are both heartbroken for the families left behind, but continue to be positive of the continuous education & safety for the future.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: saen
Location: london ont can
Email: roadhammer70  .ca
Date: 7/15/2007
Remote Name: 74.110.211.52

Comments

the big fitz has been a part of my life ever since she went down on my 5th birth day there are a few new books that are out that i havent had a chance to read but she will always be the big fitz to me and even now when i go out to the soo i have to go to the shores out superior and touch the water god bless to all the families who lost there sons husbands brothers sean norris


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Meyer family
Location: cincinnati
Email: fuzzy71310 
Date: 7/14/2007
Remote Name: 72.49.224.128

Comments

A person of my ancesory died on the Edmund Fitzgerald we never really got to meet him and that is a shame we leave our thoughts and prayers to the 29 men who died on the ship and the familys that lost loved ones on the ship


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Al
Location: Yuba City CA
Email: red67vette 
Date: 7/12/2007
Remote Name: 24.23.52.190

Comments

I often think about how those brave men had to feel knowing their doom. I always have a heavy heart whenever I hear their song and a feeling of loss. My heart and prayers go out to their familes. Remember they will live on forever!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rob
Location: Vestal, NY
Email: rphelps44  stny.rr
Date: 7/8/2007
Remote Name: 66.24.18.87

Comments

I think this is one of the most moving pieces I have ever heard. There is something about the tribute to these men that I never had the privilege to know. May the song ever keep them in our minds. Thanks to Gordon Lightfoot.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Christopher Dube
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Email: christopherfloyd_1  msn
Date: 7/7/2007
Remote Name: 74.98.6.153

Comments

The bravest men to ever sail the Great Lakes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sandra Lea Eddy
Location: Dorchester, MA
Email: pumpkin1955  earthlink
Date: 7/6/2007
Remote Name: 4.154.251.37

Comments

Since the first day I heard about the sinking and then everytime I hear that song I get chills. I don't know why. I knew no one on crew. Sometimes when I hear the song and am alone I cry, why I don't know. It just gets to me.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dahlia
Location: Baltimore, MD
Email: Dahlia72 
Date: 6/21/2007
Remote Name: 69.139.235.73

Comments

I was only 3 years old when "Big Fitz" was lost. I remembered hearing (and liking) Gordon Lightfoot's song as a child, but never paid much ention to the lyrics until I grew up. It wasn't until I was in my twenties that I caught a worst-songs-ever-written radio show and, by God, they played Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I was heartbroken that people could be so callous. Not only did I love the song, but after listening to it as a teenager, I came to respect all that it reperesented in commemoration of the men who died doing their jobs. Since then, I have collected as much information as I could and have it all neatly stored in a binder. Although I knew know one involved and have never even visited the Great Lakes area (a trip I do plan to take before my demise), I have such a deep respect for the 29 men who lost their lives that night. Their story is not only compelling, it is inspiring. It should be a reminder to us all to live our lives every day as fully as we can. For it is the greatest gift there is! And to the gentlemen who have gone down with their vessels, "May You All Rest Well."


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: maddaddy
Location: menard,tx
Email: jay999  ktc
Date: 6/18/2007
Remote Name: 207.71.36.7

Comments

red burghner, the regular steward, had left the ship at its loading point and the steward, rafferty, who was aboard at the disaster, was a relief steward.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: maddaddy
Location: menard,tx
Email: jay999  ktc
Date: 6/18/2007
Remote Name: 207.71.36.7

Comments

i believe also that it broke in two on the surface, as cousteau's crew, who found it, suggested. there are many newpaper reports on it at the vermillion, ohio museum that tell of its flexing problem before the actual wreck. it was probably weak at the point where it broke in two. The Great Lakes Historical Society is the name of the museum at vermillion, ohio.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dean
Location: lewisville, tx.
Email: dmj71761 
Date: 6/13/2007
Remote Name: 205.188.117.20

Comments

i have followed the story and have seen every show about the Great ship and the Brave crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I do however have a problem with a theory. I do believe the ship broke on the surface. Some experts say there is no way because of the location of the parts, their opinion is that if it did the parts would be farther apart. My problem is if it did break on the surface both parts are in the same currant, would that not put that pieces close together? Please don't think I'm cold on this subject- it was a magnificent vessel and the crew were very brave- (to only have 29 on a ship that large). My prayers go to the families and always have, i just beleive that is the best possibility.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dave Tomlin
Location: Waycross,Ga.
Email: dltomlin  wayxcable
Date: 6/8/2007
Remote Name: 68.16.13.109

Comments

I came here trying to remember which lake it was. I leave here crying.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike Nowak
Location: Racine Wisconsin
Email: mikeexcaliber 
Date: 6/6/2007
Remote Name: 65.30.142.106

Comments

Now nearly 31 years later, those of us who never knew the ship, the crew or the families still weep at the loss of the 29 brave souls, may Gods grace be with you. You will Never be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: michael
Location: st.thomas usvi
Email:
Date: 6/5/2007
Remote Name: 208.49.176.71

Comments

coast guard is to be blame how can you keep raising the waterline of a vessel she was originally designed for a couple thousand tons and she sank with over 26 that means she sat deeper in the water than she would normally with the heavy sees beating on her bow it is obvios that one day she would not have been able to lift her head above them being overweight she isnt the first nor last vessel to sink due to coast guard passing ships with raised waterlines to please owners and capacity


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brittany
Location: Stratford
Email:
Date: 5/25/2007
Remote Name: 206.130.211.35

Comments

Hello everyone, i am telling you that i really enjoy the song the Edmond Fitzgerald and it's one of my favourites.Also i think that this website is a great thing to look at Brittany


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gordon Edwards
Location: Ansley Nebraska
Email: Bettyedwards14 
Date: 5/21/2007
Remote Name: 75.88.99.130

Comments

I have loved this song since i was 2 and we have all the Gordon Lightfoot songs but this is are favorite i know how it feels to lose someone you love so i say this for all who had loved someone on board the Edmund Fitzgerald we will keep everyone in our hearts. may god bless those who are lost. Amen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Leana Jo Hover
Location: Prescott Valley, Az.
Email: Hovercom 
Date: 5/18/2007
Remote Name: 207.200.116.133

Comments

This is one of the greatest mysteries ever. I first heard about it, about 14 years ago, when a school friend of mine had a book about it on him. I was very curious and he let me borrow it for a few weeks. I read the whole thing and I was hooked on this famous mystery. What really happened that night? It is very bizarre. I feel bad for the families and friends of these lost souls. May God bless them and hopefully one day we will find them and know what happened...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: loggie
Location: kentucky
Email: long on memory  
Date: 5/15/2007
Remote Name: 64.12.116.202

Comments

i worked on the edmund fitzgerald as a welder helper and it was a beautiful ship . i wish other former workers from that time period ( 1957 to 1958 ,would email me that helped build this great ship , i would love to talk to some of them . ( the sinking of the big fitz was so sad and i send my thoughts and prayers to the familes of the 29 sailors who went down on her that stormy night ) may god bless you one and all .loggie formerly of river rouge michigan .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Adrian
Location: Houston
Email:
Date: 5/14/2007
Remote Name: 198.62.217.2

Comments

I am so sorry for the families of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I love hearing Gordon Lightfoot's song about the tragedy. That is my favorite Folk song of all time I send my love to the families of the 29 brave men who perished.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: braden
Location: michigain
Email: 180052987654321
Date: 4/30/2007
Remote Name: 69.54.196.200

Comments

I am working on a school project. I chose the Edmund Fitzgerald and i am glad I did.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bill Reed
Location: Laurence Harbor, New Jersey
Email: wjn725  msn
Date: 4/29/2007
Remote Name: 72.76.164.135

Comments

I am a native of Cleveland, Ohio and often saw the Fitzgerald and the Arthur Anderson docked at one of the piers downtown. Living about half mile from the shore of Lake Erie, we would observe the anniversary of her sinking with a group of friends around a bonfire on the beach. Our discussions focused on the probable cause of the sinking being her being over-loaded for last trip of the shipping season. With record-setting waves in excess of 30', her stem and stern may have ridden a wave leaving her middle relatively un-supported. Combined with the excessive weight, that may have caused her to break in two. Another contributing factor may have been the collapse of one or more hatchways, allowing water into her hold. This would have exacerbated the over-loading situation causing the breaking of the hull. This theory is also supported by the fact that she sank so quickly. There were no shoals in the area as the Arthur Anderson had successfully navigated the same course only minutes before. Gordon Lightfoot captured the saga of that fateful voyage in his song "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". In addition to the account of the incident based on extensive research, the musical scoring captures the eerieness and emotion of what transpired. Students of "the wreck" should listen to this haunting ballad and focus not only on the lyrics, but the music and how it reflects the drama playing out.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John V.
Location: Green Bay, WI
Email: john_voight  bonasaflats
Date: 4/26/2007
Remote Name: 75.87.205.151

Comments

My office faces the Port of Green Bay near the East River turning basin across from the Western Lime dock. I will always take a break from work to watch one of the big boats make its way through. I love watching them now as a 40-year-old man as much as when I was a 5th grader watching the Algosoo go through the Soo way back when. It never ceases to stir my imagination. Every now & then the Arthur M. Anderson passes by my window. And though the Anderson was lengthened to eventually make her longer than the Fitz, it still makes me wonder what kind of Hell the men on both those ships must have endured on that November evening. It's impossible for me to comprehend what it must have been like on Superior aboard those two seemingly indestructible vessels. I've witnessed those wind-whipped storms of November well inland, but only God knows what the fury is like on the big lake. It is truly humbling. God bless the men of the Fitz & all working men of the Lakes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bill Snyder
Location: Oswego New York USA
Email: WildBillWatcher 
Date: 4/24/2007
Remote Name: 205.188.117.20

Comments

I grew up on the Great Lakes . I was in high school when The Fitz sank . God rest the crew and their souls . Now sailing on the Great Lakes in a Gale is a lot harder then it is the oceans . The Atlantic or the Pacific ocean can throw heavy weight blows one at a time at a ship . The Great Lakes can and will throw a dozen good jabs from all sides on a ship at the same time . November on the Great Lakes is the last month when even the Nimitz or the Iowa could sail there with safety . March is the first month when sailing can be done by large ships .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike
Location: New Castle, IN
Email:
Date: 4/14/2007
Remote Name: 74.140.68.90

Comments

great tragedy the men sadly missed


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert
Location: Tennessee
Email: cro7rb 
Date: 4/13/2007
Remote Name: 205.188.117.20

Comments

it was a terrible loss, I was born in Cleveland Ohio, and I must say god bless you all who had to endure that sort of thing


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jJames Wilson
Location: North Olmsted, OH
Email: polmarine1  sbcglobal
Date: 4/10/2007
Remote Name: 75.35.242.125

Comments

I was on the USCG Marine Board. A computer model was created and the conditions of the sinking entered. Taking water through ineffective hatch closures was supported by the model--others theories were not.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Vic
Location: Chicago, Il
Email:
Date: 4/10/2007
Remote Name: 68.238.101.131

Comments

I was about 14 when this happened living in Chicago and remember it very well as well as when the song came out. God bless there souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Mox
Location: Holts Summit, Missouri
Email: jfmox  tribmail
Date: 4/9/2007
Remote Name: 76.2.166.195

Comments

My Great Grandmother had a cottege on Lake Ontario in Three Mile Bay. I can remeber as a child around six, visiting her. Often hearing the song on the local am station. Looking out into Three Mile Bay as a child it looked endless. I can only imagine how the captain and crew felt that fateful night. How helpless they must have felt. I can also remember going fishing with my then youthful granfather. In a little vee bottom aluminum boat with a 7 1/2 Hp Elgin outboard. We would crash the waves of Three Mile bay and get quite a ride. I memorized the song, and used to sing it as we made our way to and from. Funny, how the one thing that really takes us back in time is song. And every time I hear Gordon Lightfoot's sad song of the Fitz, it takes me back to my childhood and a very interesting story. My prayers go out to the families of the captain and crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ryan McNeil
Location: Wallaceburg Ontario
Email: systemofdamn79 
Date: 4/5/2007
Remote Name: 24.36.141.39

Comments

Living just 5 km's from the st. clair I was I love with these big ships at a young age. I remember sitting along the river watching freighters all day. At one time they actually came through my town to dock and turn around. but my being only 28 years old, This came to an end to short in my time. I have only seen one come through town, Which was the last wallaceburg would ever see. We can still see them just outside of town, But the one i never got to see is the one that has won my heart. The Edmund Fitzgerald means so much to me and the fact that it may have even docked in town here. I love the song and often find myself singing it but I didn't know it when I first did a school report on the ship. I have only been up close to one (actually went on it) being the Chi Cheemaun. I would love so much to one day ride a freighter from one great lake to another. I will this summer for the first time ever go to the docks and get up closer to my dream ships and maybe just realize a little bit more of what that grand ship we lost, Really was.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Erik Frchette
Location: Timmins, Ont,
Email:
Date: 3/31/2007
Remote Name: 208.101.103.149

Comments

I did a speech on the edmund fitzgerald and when I made it to the finals, I almost burst into tears at the part when the families had lost their loved ones. I look up to the stars every once in awhile and I say god be with you!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dave Dziki
Location: Antioch, IL
Email: ddziki2002 
Date: 3/22/2007
Remote Name: 67.133.85.130

Comments

I agree with the Lake Carriers Association's report that it was a combination of scraping bottom on Six Fathom Shoal and ballast tank damage that caused the Fitz to sink. She simply lost her ability to float. The "Big Fitz" will always live in my memory. May god bless the crew and their family.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: peter
Location: niantic ct 06357
Email: pdawghaus258 
Date: 3/16/2007
Remote Name: 71.234.247.196

Comments

No greater is the connection between sailors and their ships. May their souls find smooth passage and their memory never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim
Location: Newport, RI
Email:
Date: 3/16/2007
Remote Name: 75.193.243.20

Comments

I grew up in Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan. I studied the Fitzgerald and the sinking surrounding it for many years. I even wrote a college term paper on the sinking. To the bes t of my knowledge through in-depth research, I feel that the Fitzgerald did take a nose dive to the bottom as the weight of her load shifted to the front. May God bless the family members of this ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John loar
Location: redford michigan
Email: johnjloar 
Date: 3/4/2007
Remote Name: 69.81.182.62

Comments

I was in the fifth grade when it sank we were in class when we heard about the ship sinking this day has always in my heart I think about them often


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: paul
Location: crawley
Email:
Date: 3/4/2007
Remote Name: 80.41.114.33

Comments

just spent hours reading the comments i also heard gordons song as a young boy. i will vist white fish bay. respect to those 29 families


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: susan estelle
Location: Cranston, RI 02905
Email: susan36  cox
Date: 3/2/2007
Remote Name: 72.195.130.208

Comments

I just saw a documentary on this tragic event and will always feel sad for those who lost loved ones. We wonder at the reasons or failings as if there is someone to blame. I believe in God's plan for us all. These poor men are part of history and loved by us all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Julie
Location: Indianpolis, IN
Email: julie_ann_morris 
Date: 3/1/2007
Remote Name: 69.219.238.204

Comments

I was a girl of 12 when this terrible tradgedy happened. Unfortunately, at that age, the news didn't interest me terribly, so I 'missed' it, after a fashion. But I always listened with great interest and sadness to the song which immortalized it. I couldn't ever understand why anyone would put 26K pounds of iron ore in a ship on the water and sail into deep water, but that's the way industry made it's money, I guess. I'm so glad they got the bell from the site. Much sorrow for all of your losses. It should never have happened. Vaya con dios.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Conklin
Location: Manistee
Email: mikey_ray77 
Date: 2/28/2007
Remote Name: 24.247.139.238

Comments

The Sinking of The Edmund Fitzgerald is in my opinion the worst maritime disaster in Great Lakes history i am currently researching on the fitz for a speech in one of my college classes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Khori Carnes
Location: Piqua, ohio, USA
Email: drummerforgod65 
Date: 2/24/2007
Remote Name: 71.74.203.180

Comments

i still remember my dad telling me about this ship when i was little...the more i grew up, the more i respected and understood the whole thing. a couple years ago, my dad and i went up to White Fish Point in michigans upper-penninsula whic was 12 miles from where the Edmunds met her demise. there is a museum there dedicated to all the ships that have been lost in the great lakes, and the Fitz is the one in the spot light in that museum. now, everytime i listen to Gordon Lightfoots' song, i cant help but remember being with my dad, at that museum, seeing the pictures of the crew of 29 that perished that night. my dad is actually moving up to that point in a couple months, so ill have a reason to visit that museum quite a lot

 


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gerry
Location: Ireland
Email: gsweeneyblacksodat
Date: 2/13/2007
Remote Name: 86.43.80.142

Comments

I saw a documentary on Discovery re. the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It was brilliant, I often think of the men who drowned and their families and say a prayer for them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Emmett Fenlon
Location: Ireland
Email: emmettfenlonat
Date: 2/4/2007
Remote Name: 80.193.14.206

Comments

"Whats that song Dad", I asked my father last summer. He loved the Gordon Lightfoot song as indeed I came to love it. He told me the story of how the ship went down and of the 29 men who lost their lives. My father lived on his barge on Lough Ree in Ireland, until he tragically drown last December. Police divers recovered his body from the bottom of the lake. " The lake it is said never gives up her dead", how this rang true! I will cherish the memories I have of him, my partner and I sitting in the wheelhouse listening to this song. God rest his soul and the souls of those 29 men he first brought to my ention.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cooper Crowell
Location: Richmond, VA
Email: shericrowellat
Date: 2/3/2007
Remote Name: 71.206.181.164

Comments

Based on available information, I think the Edmund Fitzgerald sank because the severe storm forced it onto a shoal resulting in it's breaking in two.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Patricia Ann
Location: Ingham
Email: ukbpnsdcat
Date: 2/1/2007
Remote Name: 71.7.171.223

Comments

My daughter and I feel for the families of those who went down on the Edmund Fitzgerald. A year later we were aboard a freighter with my Chief Engineer husband, Michael John Ingham, sailing from Green Bay to Marathon, Ontario and almost suffered the same fate. We made it, but he had my daughter and I strapped together in one bunk with sheets and blankets to keep us safe. He could not get past the storm to the Engine room and was bracing himself upright between bunks. No one expected us to make it home to Marathon, but we did. Later that year my husband took his ship home across the Lake through 16 inches of ice in the face of many doubters. We wondered why Lake vessels were flat bottomed when it caused a huge risk in those waters which are easily as dangerous as any sea or ocean.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: michael
Location: brooklyn ny
Email: mikeym1968at
Date: 2/1/2007
Remote Name: 207.200.116.133

Comments

Ya know...after I read all these ideas on how this ship sank it really amazed me...to know that most are true...yes no one really knows how this ship sank but the only way for sure how and why ??is a full scale model computer simulator....with all damage factors. they should put it all together and make a computer model on what it was like that night...of course we have reports on the damage it sustained...yea they crew on titanic said the ship had a gash under the water line when in fact it had its hull plates caved in as the result of damage it sustained when it glanced the ice burg. My point..?is take a long hard look on the evidence before making a sure sound judgement how such a mighty huge ship sank... And to conclude..I made a model of an ore carrier few yrs ago...and me being 5/5 this model I made was abit taller then me and being remote controled I took it out on the beach....and before I sailed this I took a hammer and cracked the hall and in this model I built bulk heads and placed water pumps in the bow...and mid deck...so I sailed the waves and full throttle and the ship like the fitzgerald with full ballest..it settled deepper and deeper then as I sailed it toward meee...suddenly a huge freak wave came up and lifted my model and then the bow was half covered with water and with the flooded water already in the ship...it went down with the prop full throttle hitting the ocean floor...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Karen K
Location: Brantford, Ont.
Email: paigenliamsmommyathotmal
Date: 1/30/2007
Remote Name: 74.114.24.3

Comments

I was only 4 years old when I first heard Gordon Lightfoot's song about the Fitz. Even today it is one of my favorites & still gives me chills when I hear it. God bless all the families who lost a loved on in this tragedy that will never be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lynda Baillie
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Email: lyndaebaillieat
Date: 1/29/2007
Remote Name: 69.159.36.229

Comments

To the many families who lost a loved one, my very deepest sympathy. Even after 31 years it seems like yesterday. This ship passed the cottage where I spent my summers. On my wall I have a big picture of the Fitz going by and my two brothers are in it. It was our favourite ship. My heart goes out especially now to the families that were not able to retieve their loved ones. My son was killed this past summer in a transport accident and was ejected from his truck, otherwards we would not have had his body to bring home and bury. The Sault area with the two sets of locks are very big ship watchers. I remember the days when I was young and 70 to 80 boats passed by in a day. Now your lucky if you see 8 or 10 sometimes. Anyway, I only wanted to say I think of the families and crew very often. God bless all of you and the pain and suffering you have endured. May God Bless and someday you will be together again Lynda


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: don farrah
Location: mooretown ont
Email: wullaoneat
Date: 1/27/2007
Remote Name: 64.231.92.195

Comments

cargo shifted to front when she went over a wave and she nosedived to bottem and broke in two.I have all blueprints of the Fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brendon and Deck
Location: Durango, Colorado
Email: dshalineatbresnan
Date: 1/22/2007
Remote Name: 72.174.192.187

Comments

Dear family and friends of the Fitz, We became interested in the story of the Edmund Fitzgerald after listening to Gordon Lightfoot's song. We think of the brave men who perished that night when we listen to the song. God bless them and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott Wilson
Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
Email: scottwatqarch
Date: 1/18/2007
Remote Name: 12.98.241.58

Comments

Although I have lived in Texas half my life, I was raised and always will be, a Michigander. When I try to explain to Texans how harsh the weather can be, and particularly on the Great Lakes, the Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald comes to mind. I was in high school in 1975 and remember the event. Also, thanks to Gordon Lightfoot's beautiful ballad to the crew men lost that cold night, to the families I would like to say, they are not forgotten. Sincerely, Scott Wilson


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cathy and Jerry
Location: Alexandria,IN
Email: muffinbubbaatsbcglobal
Date: 1/15/2007
Remote Name: 67.37.4.125

Comments

From all indications, the ship was blown into the Shoals causinging the hatches to spring,taking on water, different depths in different areas of the ship, caused the ship to break apart. So therefore, it was the accumulation of all that caused the ship to sink. That area is known for the shipwrecks because of the hazadous shoals. Adding the treacherous storms the area has, makes for quite a passage into the Soo Locks. We think the captain and all his crew were very brave that night and did all they could to make way thru the storm. Any freighter crew traveling the Great Lakes are very brave men on any given day transporting ore,etc. thru the Great Lakes, with all the treacherous shipping lanes and the ever changing weather. Since that time, the freighters have improved with all their new radar equipment,etc. and hopefully there won't be anymore shipwrecks. The Captain and Crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald are to be treasured as they did all they could in the treacherous storm and gave their all .Their familes and friends should always carry in their hearts the bravery that this crew and captain exhibited. The other crew on the "Anderson" freighter were brave,also, just in aiding the Fitzgerald, but to no avail because of the gastly weather. The song says it all. The Edmund Fitzgerald and its crew are now at peace out of all the storms. They will always be remembered.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: L. Jones
Location: Wetumpka AL
Email: lj98stangat
Date: 1/15/2007
Remote Name: 68.207.167.19

Comments

Last night I was listening to our local radio station and they played The Loss Of The Edmund Fitzgerald. For the first time I sat and wondered about what happend that night. Ever sence I have had dreams that put me on the ship and I am whatching the Captin do everything possable to save his ship and crew. Then I wake up. That was 20 years ago the first time I heard the famous song. Now every time I hear the tune I daydream the same dream. It reminds me that there are people that will give everything to live the American dream. To all who were lost and to there families, I will never forget the "FITZ". I am so glad that the families made sure that no one can dive on the ships final resting plase. It is not proper to keep destrbing the resting place of the 29 men still fighting to get the ore to its destination. In my home state of Alabama, we have our stories of ships in Mobil Bay that never returnd to port, but most of them were war ships of the Civil War, or river boats that cought fire and sank. The river boats were mainly transporting goods from the south to citys in the north. Most of these sinkings were human errer. The "FITZ" was doing her job and was doing it well. Her track record proves it. Only Mother Nature could hold her back. To all the families of the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald, and all others lost at sea, "GOD BLESS YOU", for one day you will reunite with your loved ones and then the "FITZ" will reach port and all will dock and unload in Gods hands. Finally, I have watched the docamentery of the "FITZ" on the History Chanel. It is very educational and anyone who wants to learn about the history of the "FITZ" need to watch it. Thank you for letting me and the rest of the world remember the 29 men that set sail on the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris Dube
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Email: christopherfloyd_1atmsn
Date: 1/9/2007
Remote Name: 74.116.19.105

Comments

The bravest 29 crewmen on the Great Lakes.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Alan
Location: Owosso, michigan
Email: theloweboatat
Date: 1/8/2007
Remote Name: 68.188.160.87

Comments

I read alot on the big fitz it brings tears to my eyes I have posters and books on the ss EDMUND FITZGERALD I use to have a model but got broken I have a bud mirror with fitz on it they are rare and I got one.My prayers and thoughts to family and friends of the crew I always play The Wreck of the EDMUND FITZGERALD on Nov. 10th every year.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Guy
Location: Toronto, On.
Email: toona9858at
Date: 12/29/2006
Remote Name: 72.141.29.6

Comments

As a long distance trucker I transit the wild country of the north shore on a regular basis and invariably I will listen to Gordon Lightfoot's song as I do so. I have seen Superior in all of its seasons and in all of its moods. At times I pull over, sit on a boulder and reflect on its sheer power and vastness. Last winter I witnessed a winter storm bringing ocean size breakers crashing against the rocky shore. I thought of the sailors as I recalled the words of the song: "Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes into hours."


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: bobbie
Location: N.C.
Email: greenberetssgtat
Date: 12/26/2006
Remote Name: 204.185.135.124

Comments

i have always had a special place in my heart.for the sailors of the lakes. my dad is a former lake man. and was out the night the BIG FITZ went missing. he told me ho hard it was not to cry.knowing 29 fellow sailors were in trouble. and his ship couldnt help. for the famlies left behind. my thoughts and prayers go out to you. and for the brave crew of the Fitzgerald. may you have fair winds and folling seas. may you all rest in peace


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cpt. Bernd "Haui" Hauschildt
Location: Hamburg, Germany
Email: haui hauisworld.de
Date: 12/22/2006
Remote Name: 149.225.140.38

Comments

I like to express my though for the families first. I have searched for a friend of mine and his crew in the north sea/ Europe for 36 hours until I had to brake off due to weather conditions. He had a great brand new ship, 15th trip and was a fine captain+ he had a fine crew. I had the sister ship under command, 172th trip- last trip before some serious time at the shipyard was due. All got lost, but it is known that some might still have lived upon my arrival at the scene. I just haven't been able to find them in the rough sea. My heart goes out to all of those who lost someone at sea. I know "Gitche Gumee" like it is in November from a while back. Don't search to hard for reasons. Sometimes it simply is "up to the eyebrows" for a vessel to take. Sometimes there is no luck. Often there is a surprise. Seldom all of these come together- Capt. "Haui"


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Donald
Location: Petaluma, California
Email: wheels8atSBCGLOBAL
Date: 12/22/2006
Remote Name: 69.226.216.4

Comments

As I listen to Gordon Lightfoot's song about the Fitzgerald; it definitely has an eerie feeling about what happened. My heart, thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends of the crew. Bless you all


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kaytee and Eric
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Email: Fallout101at
Date: 12/21/2006
Remote Name: 69.180.164.246

Comments

These men are truly an inspiration to the backbone of what we stand for. They represent everything we work for, live for, and experience. They are always in our thoughts, minds, and prayers and they lead us day to day with the perfection we hope to achieve. They're sacrifice will and always be truly appreciated.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mary edwards
Location: Ft Atkinson WI
Email:
Date: 12/19/2006
Remote Name: 24.240.69.18

Comments

For as long as i can remember i have had a strong connection to the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald. I am now getting a full back too as a memorial to the ship and the men whose life were lost that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Andrew
Location: delavan
Email: 68pontiaclat
Date: 12/14/2006
Remote Name: 12.206.237.49

Comments

She was the best ship on the sea my grandma was 18 years old when she went down


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nate
Location: Manitowoc, WI
Email:
Date: 12/9/2006
Remote Name: 4.159.41.119

Comments

Regardless of what caused the Edmund Fitzerald to be lost, we should never forget the 29 men lost that night. People should stop trying to figure out what caused the loss of the Edmund Fitzgeraldand put there efforts towards making sure it never happens again. God bless the 29 men and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ginny Kliewer
Location: Edmonds , Washington
Email: Kliew5at
Date: 12/9/2006
Remote Name: 207.200.116.133

Comments

I have been listening to Gordon Lightfoot song "Wreck of the Edmonds Fitzgerald". This song has been out for many many years but you still feel the loss of the boat and the crew. Gordon Lightfoot can really bring songs to life. Thanks Gordon for your song about events and people. I wonder how you'd write a song about the "Twin Towers" 911 event


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom
Location: Ontario Canada
Email: wwwwww
Date: 12/8/2006
Remote Name: 142.46.57.254

Comments

I was driving to work on the 2006 anniversary of the loss of the Edmond Fitzgerald.The radio station that I was listening to played Gordon Lightfoot's song."The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".Even though I grew up in Mr.Lightfoots home town and know many of his songs I had not heared that one.Haunting,,.The song served its purpose,Awareness and Rememberance forever.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cory
Location: Antigo, Wisconsin
Email: coryprice8at
Date: 12/8/2006
Remote Name: 68.115.0.175

Comments

Ever since I was a young child, I've had a fasination with large boats and ships, however I didn't learn about the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald until I was probably 11 or 12 years old. At first I didn't understand the impact of the tragic events that took place that day, but I've been trying to learn about it as much as possible ever since. Without knowing any of the families, or ever getting the chance to see her, the Fitz holds a place in my heart, and I would like to learn as much as possible. Thank You Cory


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jason Duke
Location: Michigan, Garden city
Email: jasinduke360at
Date: 12/2/2006
Remote Name: 64.12.116.198

Comments

I can't even imagine what it would be like not knowing the Big Fitz. I grew up learing about it. For the longest time, I was obsessed and in some ways I still am. I always think of the loss of the men, and to the familys around November. The song by Gordon Lightfoot is one of my favorites, I grew up on that. Now that I am older, 33 to be exact it is how the ship was lost that obsesses me, and the fact that those poor men had no chance. I am completely convinced the Fitz bottomed out on Six fathom shoal. I went to college where David Weiss went to in Traverse City, even had his teacher Mr. Tanner. The recent recovery of the ships bell for me I am happy for the family's because they at least have some kind of way to grieve for their lost loved ones. I agree that they should stop diving the Fitz because what else do they have to discover? But I will always keep the Fitz and the crew in my heart, for me the ledgend will always live on...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cathy
Location: Pa
Email: purplecritter66at
Date: 11/30/2006
Remote Name: 24.238.51.201

Comments

I don't know what it is but EVERY TIME I hear the song I get goose bumps all over. I don't know why. It's very strange. Very sad.God Bless......


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Calhoun
Location: Heislerville NJ
Email: kc2atkatsnip
Date: 11/28/2006
Remote Name: 209.204.64.141

Comments

If the EF Hit bottom why has no one mentioned any scrapping marks on keel section. Also If the hatch covers or cover came off and caused the sinking the capt would have had time to call or answer the anderson. The logical answer to me lies in the fact that if the EF Had a wave pick up the stern forcing the the bow to dive the crew would have been thrown forward with no chance to call mayday. By the time they could recover the wave pressure plus water pressure on the bow it was to late. I came to this conclusion after last nites documentry on the History channel. Thank you John calhoun


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John-Erich
Location: Fairbanks, AK
Email: ftjh2atuaf
Date: 11/26/2006
Remote Name: 137.229.56.149

Comments

Each year in November, I think about the Edmund Fitzgerald. I was in high school when the ship was lost. The Iron Range and the Great Lakes are a big part of living in Minnesota and I believe everyone there felt a personal loss when they heard the sad news. Gordon Lightfoot's song is almost sacred. Whenever I hear it, I feel like I'm paying my respects to those brave sailors. In my opinion, they will always be like a band of brothers. My thoughts and prayers are with their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Darold
Location: Rothbury, Michigan
Email: dcarrieriiat
Date: 11/22/2006
Remote Name: 207.69.137.36

Comments

I barely remember the sinking of the Fitz, I was 3 when she went down. I DO remember my Mom taking us kids up to Whitefish Point shortly there after the sinking. I remember that becuase that was my first time crossing the mighty Mac. It took us 2 days to get there, thanks to all the snow on the ground. Once we got there Mom dropped to her knees and started crying and praying. That was the first time in my life that I saw my Mom cry over something that wasn't related to our family. Every year since, I go up to Whitefish Point and place 29 roses at the memorial and I too start to cry. Since that time, my Mom was passed too, so for me doing this helps me remember her and the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Micheal Catling
Location: Soo ont
Email: irenewatshaw
Date: 11/20/2006
Remote Name: 24.109.21.32

Comments

I remember that night like yesterday .It was a bad storm even the waves on the St Mary river where 15' higt. Never did I ever see it since. Windows blew out of store's and trees pulled out by roots it was a bad bad storm. The ship broke in two when it hit bottom and did not come back up they had no chance n't change things now. so sad


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: logee
Location: ky
Email: hotpoker46at
Date: 11/19/2006
Remote Name: 205.188.116.8

Comments

november 19th 2006 THIS IS from a man who helped build the edmund fitzgerald. another anniversary of the sinking of the big fitz has come and gone of the big ship's sinking .what a magnificent ship she was and what an exciting time in my young life to be a part of the building of this truly awesome ship . i was barely 18 yrs old as i hired on at great lakes engineering works in river rougue michigan . this huge ship was built at a cost of 8 million dollars . tink what it would cost today to build one like her ! i have many fond thoughts of that time in my life of the ship and my fellow co workers i can't recall all their names but some i can remember only faces some thier names, julius pontgratz . bill teidman , walter kalarchic , ( larry last name i don't recall) mack harrison ( now deseased) JIMMIE THOMAS, albert perkins , my father who was nick named chester a welder helper and his boss who was nick named m dillion, many many more names i forget but the faces of so many i still see in my mind ,also my former bosses whitIe our welding foreman. tommy baird boss, steve baird boss, jim garland, art johnson and more i can't recall names of. If there;s anyone of my old fellow co workers still living i hope you read this and email me i would love to know if any of you are still living and would love to talk over those days and nights we worked side by side, through cold winters and hot summers to build this awesome ship and two more i helped build besides the big fitz hull 301 -- also 302 and hull 303 the last ship built before the yard closed in eraly 1960's. theres one more fellow worker i recall ( first name not certain but last name was kerry ? or curry ) please guys if you are reading this or anyone who may know any of the names ive mentioned , would you email me ? it would mean so much to me to hear from any or all i worked with . my nick name you all gave me was loggie . \ to the familes of the 29 lost sailors i send my deepest regrets and wish for you to know that the building of the edmund fitzgerald was well built by professionals , i know some have made assumtions or accusations that poor workmanship might been to blame . don't beleive this . i was and eye witness to her construction and the builders and workers took great pride in the building of the ship and took thier best efforts i do beleive to build this awesome ship to be as strong and safe as possible . i know not what caused the ship's terrible sinking but read the facts , it was an afull storm , she set riding low in the water . god probaly is the only one will ever know the facts for sure . ( once again to the families of the 29 salors may god bless you and help you with the grief of your loss . i think of you often and of your loved ones lost .im loggie .former co worker of the contruction of the awesome ship that not only took the lives of your loves ones but the lifes of some 3 men who lost thier life building the fitz hull 301, the hull 302 and the hull 303 . you see we averaged a loss of one man per ship. also many men have suffered and died from the effects of asbestos , welding in unsafe condtions in the bottom of the ships as well as i and many more contracted empesema asthma etc from our working conditions . but i still have fond memories of those days in far of yestedays . god bless all who suffered from the building of the big fitz , the familes of the sailors who's lives were cut short as well as the men who built the ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael J.Billock
Location: Monroe, Michigan
Email: billock1atsbcglobal
Date: 11/16/2006
Remote Name: 69.209.185.70

Comments

It is hard to believe it's been 31 years ago already.I've always had a keen interest in this sinking and read everything I could on the subject. My interest and speculation over the sinking has never dwindled. I've never believed the theory of faulty hatch covers. I believe she hit the shoal area and suffered bottom damage and began taking on water.With the waves as huge as they were, simultaneously she was taking on water up forward over the spar deck and was losing freeboard with every wave. She "nose-dived"perhaps with one large wave and never recovered, the bow striking the bottom, with her twisting in two on the way down. I live just 20 miles north of Toledo Ohio and used to love driving down to the Port of Toledo and view all the ships in winter layup. The "Fitz" spent many winters there, along with ships from 3-4 American fleets. Sadly,there isn't nearly the number of ships to look at anymore. And the ones you do see do not have the classic great lines the earlier ships did.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: lee bendel
Location: wadsworth oh
Email: elroyosuat
Date: 11/16/2006
Remote Name: 64.12.116.198

Comments

i did not know or lose a loved one in this tragic disaster.i have always been fascinated by the great lakes lore.i have been to white fish bay to see the sight.i want to know as much about the "fitz" as i can.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ronald
Location: Clifton Forge Va
Email: r_v_family_foreverat
Date: 11/16/2006
Remote Name: 216.12.58.50

Comments

To me it was a great loss. Not of the ship, but of the vewry finest crew. Well it is the crew and there loved ones left behind that we should always remember, and to keep in our hearts thoughts and prayers.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jeanette
Location: Ladysmith, wi
Email: jvkatzenatcenturytel
Date: 11/13/2006
Remote Name: 69.179.251.224

Comments

I'm not sure that people will ever forget the Fitz and her crew. . . with no small thanks to Gordon Lightfoot. My grandparents had settled in Ironwood, MI so, even as a kid, I had a sense of the mystery and force of Superior. I was living in the western mountains when the Fitz went down and even at that distance felt the impact of the news. I think there are those in each succeeding generation who are drawn in to carry forth the memory.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Alex
Location: minnesota
Email: Purf_21at
Date: 11/13/2006
Remote Name: 66.191.129.197

Comments

It was a very tragic loss and has been efected on a lot of people. People we might not know but it is sad.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Stefany Pr
Location: Waconia, MN
Email: stefpr
Date: 11/12/2006
Remote Name: 71.55.132.75

Comments

My husband thinks he was related to James Pr, second mate on the Fitz. Does anyone know what state death certificates for those who perished can be found?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Douglas Fitzmaurice
Location: Wolcott, NY
Email: drfitzverizon
Date: 11/12/2006
Remote Name: 129.44.212.195

Comments

I remember well that night as It was a nightmare for our company as well. We had two barges in Clayton, NY on the St Lawrence river. We had a spud barge and a material barge working. The winds started to whip up out of the SW in the afternoon, but by 4:30 in the afternoon the winds had shifted to the wnw and the waves were so bad we hardly got the men off the barge. The Watertown airport reported 96 MPH winds about midnight and the wind and waves dragged our spudbarg with 18 thousand pounds of concrete anchors across Goose Bay leaving scrapes in the rock on the bottom the length of the bay. Our barges were deposited up on a little island to the east of the bay. At the time I did not know that anyone else was having trouble that night as we watched helplessly while the spud barge moved across that bay. It was only later that we heard that a ship had gone down in Lake Superior. I felt very sorry for the families of the crew members and considered myself very lucky that no one got hurt on our operation. I must admitt though, that everytime I hear that song I am transported back to that terrible night and can only imagine the terror that those crewmen endured until the final moments. May God grant them and their families peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheila
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
Email:
Date: 11/11/2006
Remote Name: 198.164.4.48

Comments

I am a Newfoundlander and loss of life to the ocean is, like the poster from Nova Scotia said, no stranger to the people of this province. We have a strong maritime history, not only in the Atlantic but on the Great Lakes as well. I was at University when the EDMUND FITZGERALD sank and remember clearly hearing the news. It brought sharply into focus thoughts of friends and acquaintances who were sailing on 'The Lakes'. On this day of remembrance, let us also remember the families of the crewmembers who were lost that day.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From:
Location:
Email: sj47830
Date: 11/11/2006
Remote Name: 70.240.6.177

Comments

I remember that day so well. Through out the day An Elton John song that is rarely heard played 4 different times that day. Funeral For A Friend. We had heard at the company I worked for that an ore ship had gone down. That's all anyone knew at that point. Not knowing who was on the ship, or what had really happened. They say people can come to us with important messages. Perhaps people they know would understand their presence, or not totally freak out I would guess. I believe that night my friend (which I did not know at the time was on the ship, the names were released the next day) came to me. Of course I did have to question what he was doing standing in the bedroom at 1 AM...and what would my husband say if he woke up, thinking perhaps I dreamt this. But his message...Let my Mom know I am ok, and not to worry. Many on that boat were just begining their lives. That's what we should do today even after all the years that have past. Celebrate the lives of the men that went down on that ship. For family and friends remember the good times the happy times. the special times. They memories will always be in our hearts. Prayers to the famlies and to the crew of the Edmond Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sue
Location: Missorui
Email: beautynobeast4u
Date: 11/11/2006
Remote Name: 70.240.6.177

Comments

Our prayers and thoughts, go out to the family members and the crew of the Edmond. A good friend was lost, but never forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Thomas Marnich
Location: Northern IL
Email: t.marnichinsightbb
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 74.135.98.187

Comments

Thirty-one years ago today I was a sophmore in high school in L'Anse, MI, which is located on Keewenaw Bay on the south shore of Superior. The waves coming in the bay off the lake were like nothing I had ever seen, and this was before the seas started coming around from the Northwest. I will never forget the intensity of that storm, nor the shocking news that an oar boat went down on the east end of the lake that night. As I was at work today, I thought often of the crew and the families, and I tried to recall the timeline of events as the Fitz made it way through the lake on it's course with eternity. To this day, thirty-one years later, I still mourn the loss of these men. The magnitude of what they had to have went through saddens me to the very core of my being. For many people, the interest is in the enigma of what happened to the ship. But as with many of the six thousand shipwrecks which have occured on the great lakes, only the Good Lord and the lake itself knows what happened, and maybe in the end that's all we're allowed to know. It's a cold, rainy night with strong winds out of the North here in northern Illinois tonight, and I stood outside in the wind and rain and said a prayer for every man on that boat, and for every mariner who made the supreme sacrifice. They have all made this country what it is today, and for that I will be eternally grateful.To the family and friends of all the men on the Fitz, may the Good Lord hold you all in his loving embrace, and please remember that there are many of us who share your grief to this very day, and will continue to do so till we all sail into eternity... God Bless You All Thomas


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan
Location: kenosha, Wi
Email:
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 205.213.211.209

Comments

God bless the crew and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris Recla
Location: Ironwood MI.
Email: recla4sbcglobal
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 75.21.132.238

Comments

Another year has gone by. For those alive, things ever changing and moving faster every day.But For 29 men,they are Frozen in time.Forever on duty in the ship they respected and loved.Every 10NOV at 1915 I say a prayer and pay my respects on the shore of Lake Superior.GOD BLESS the crew and their family.May they never be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Demarco
Location: Boston, MA. U.S.A.
Email: david5512
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 205.188.116.8

Comments

31 years ago tonight! God Bless the "Big Fitz" and all who sailed on her. Never forget! We will always honor them on this evening.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jason
Location: Boulder Jct. WI
Email:
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 216.56.24.162

Comments

I first heard about the sinking of the Fitzgerald in fifth grade. it brings a tear to my eye each time I hear the song. Now as a junior in high school, I want to sail the great lakes on a freighter. We most never forget those 29 men who died to day 31 years ago. Nor must we forget all of those who have perished on the great lakes, known and unknown. Though you may argue over the cause we most always remember that people have died. I also send out my deepest sympathy to the families of the crew, and the families of all of the sailors, and passengers, who have died.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Judy
Location:
Email:
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 24.65.192.154

Comments

I just want to say that today is also my birthday, and I do remember well November 10th 1975. I turned 22 that day and was out for dinner with friends and family and heard of the ship's problems over the car radio on the way home. The next morning the worst was confirmed: all aboard had perished and the ship had gone down in Lake Superior. Every year on this date I still think of the family and friends who lost loved ones that fateful date, and I listen to Gordon Lightfoot's The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, it's just something I "have" to do. God Bless those family and friends.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Allan Kupczyk
Location: Duluth MN -Ashland WI
Email: atkupczykyah
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 65.82.138.66

Comments

Close to home.. I had a great Uncle go down with the Fitz. Blaine Wilhelm an oiler. I also had a classmate that was born in result of the sinking, (Her grand father was the wheelman)Her mother went into labor when the news hit. I think back on how if my Grandfather would have went down in that storm I would not have met him. He also sailed the lakes for years. So When I hear Gordon's Song playing, I realize how lucky I was for my grandfather not to have been on the Fitz at that time. My Grandmother makes the trip to Whitefish to honor her brother and the others that went down with the boat for each ceremony that has taken place. I think that the sinking of the Fitz should have a movie made about it to tell the story of the what happend and how it has affected the rest of the world. The Titanic sailed and went down, but the mighty Fitz and the other Lakers did this year after year. There are not many spouses or family members around to tell the story...Or like Gordon says "the legend live on....."


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dennis Dodge
Location: Glenn Michigan
Email: ddodgetiarayachts
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 65.123.111.70

Comments

I was ending Lake State in the Sault. They used to divide up the freshmen into small groups during orientation. Mine was the Fitzgerald back in 1973. I was a senior when she was lost. We could hardly walk down the hill that night with all the wind and rain and then snow. I can't imagine what they were facing out on the lake. After seeing her lock thru so many times it was like losing a friend. God bless all those lost and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
Email: youn_cxr  access-k12
Date: 11/10/2006
Remote Name: 64.18.36.3

Comments

Another year has gone by and people are beginning to forget. But to those of us who lost a loved one on that terrible day in November, we can never forget. It can never be over, or in the past. 31 years, but it may as well have been yesterday. Our friend, our husband, or Father they live in our hearts and minds and will forever. God Bless all of you who lost someone they loved on that fateful November day.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jerry Simpson
Location: Tennessee
Email: volunteers  blomand  .
Date: 11/9/2006
Remote Name: 206.74.88.162

Comments

I teach 5th and 6th grade students. We have been listening to the song by Gordon Lightfoot and reading the words to the song during our reading/writing class. We have been studying about the Great Lakes and the factors that contributed to the disaster. The students were touched by the story. Some of them wished to leave messages for the family members. May it comfort you to know that part of your loved ones legacy is being carried out in our classroom. We plan to conclude our study on November 10, which is the anniversary date. We plan to ring a bell 29 times as each name is read. As we approach the 31st anniversary of the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, I wish to thank the brave crewmen who have provided inspiration and motivation for a reading/writing class in Tennessee.

Following are some thoughts from our class:
I would say to the family members of the Edmund Fitzgerald that I am sorry for you and I think about your family. I am thinking of your family. C.J.
I am so sorry about your family members who died on the Edmund Fitzgerald. I just want to tell you that those 29 men are really brave and tried so hard to survive. I know if they had put 15 miles behind them they would have made it. I wish they could be here with us today. I would like to tell you that I know what it feels like to lose a husband or a brother or uncle or aunt because I lost a member of my family too. A.M.
I am sorry about what happened. I am thinking of you and the people that died. I go to church and I will pray for them. Z.C.
I am so sorry for the sons, wives, and daughters and I will pray for them. B. J.
I am sorry for the people who died on that ship. Im sure you are thinking about this and Im sorry they died. I am sorry for your loss. I hope this makes you feel better. A.S.
What I would say to the family members of the Edmund Fitzgerald: I am sorry for your loss. I hope you get well and I am sorry for the men of the ship. C. M. I know you will be sad thinking about when the ship went down. R. R. I feel sorry for your loss. M.E. I hope your lives are still happy and I know how you feel. I lost my dad at the age of 9 but we all know hes still with us. I just want you to know that they are still with you. H.H.
I feel sorry for what happened. I am thinking of your family. They were really brave. B.L.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sue
Location: saginaw, MI
Email: s.satwhite    .
Date: 11/9/2006
Remote Name: 152.163.100.198

Comments

As the anniversary approaches, I recall the sadness we all felt when we heard of the sinking. I was a senior in high school, and in Government class. I had always loved history, especially MI history, which included a deep interest in the shipping/lumbering/tourist trades. Love geography and of course the Great Lakes. Have enjoyed the tribute up at the museum in UP; nicely done. My thoughts are with the families at this time. Bless you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Darlene
Location: Houston
Email: tewell  houston.rr  .
Date: 11/8/2006
Remote Name: 67.10.210.79

Comments

my prayers and thoughts are with the families left behind. May God hold you all in the shelter of his arms


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: chris galton
Location: Traverse City
Email: b737tvc 
Date: 11/8/2006
Remote Name: 64.12.116.198

Comments

My great grand dads were the youngest Capts. on the Great Lakes on board the Frank H. Goodyear and the Hugh Kennedy. I have read their logs and we to lost a whale back up in Superior during the same week but in the 20's. God Bless ole Fitz and the good crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kaitlyn Barber
Location: Oxford,MI
Email: Barber
Date: 11/6/2006
Remote Name: 216.11.106.4

Comments

I feel bad for all the people who died on that ship on that night. I also feel bad for the families that suffered because the ship disappeared in the nights darkness. I want to give my hopes to those families bye


Subject: Why the Edmunds Fitzgerald sank
From: Sarah B.
Location: Valley Center, Kansas
Email: sabrauner  cox  .
Date: 11/5/2006
Remote Name: 68.102.180.200

Comments

I think the Edmunds Fitzgerarald did not break in two until after it sank.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sandy alexander
Location: ont
Email: psyandman    .
Date: 11/5/2006
Remote Name: 64.187.8.45

Comments

going by the information I have seen over the years, I don't think that she broke in two until she hit bottom. god bless we remember you


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Payton Mariah
Location: Sault Ste. Marie MI
Email: bsalomon  charter  .
Date: 11/4/2006
Remote Name: 24.180.208.205

Comments

I think the Fitzgerald was a beautiful ship my parents were 5 and 6 when the steamer sunk on Nov.10,1995.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Derick
Location: Owatonna Minnesota
Email:
Date: 11/2/2006
Remote Name: 71.215.171.165

Comments

I'm a 16 year old kid that came across some of the stuff from the Fitz in my grandmothers ic and well it interested me and I now I want to know everything I can know about it... I feel bad for the Folks that loss their husbands and fathers to Superior.... From, Derick


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom
Location: Shelby Twp.
Email: TJkoczab    .
Date: 11/2/2006
Remote Name: 68.60.149.31

Comments

I was just a teenager growing up in Detroit when she went down. The song and the sounding of the bell haunt me to this day. My heart goes out to the families. I can not imagine the pain. I still get the sad feeling when November comes around and think of the ships out there today. This is a memory I will not let go of and only wonder why Hollywood has not made a picture of Michigan's perfect storm. May God bless the families of the Crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: bmarcz
Location: Newport Beach, Ca.
Email: bmarcz    .
Date: 10/31/2006
Remote Name: 76.168.113.130

Comments

is their a sitemap available anywhere where the Fitzgerald started its voyage and ended it?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: terry lynds
Location: truro nova scotia
Email: terrylynds  eastlink  .
Date: 10/27/2006
Remote Name: 24.137.75.83

Comments

As I write this, I am listening to the song by Gordon lightfoot.i spent most of my life growing up around the ocean. Maritime life is all I know, and love , the loss of life due to sinkings is no stranger to all of us here, I was born on nov 10 1967, was just a boy when the Fitz sank, but to this day I will always remember , id like to give all my prayers to the families .Today when I see the documentary on TV or here Gordon's song my heart ways heavy, REST WEARY SAILORS, REST.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: L. Anderson
Location: New Jersey
Email: photolou51    .
Date: 10/26/2006
Remote Name: 160.93.75.42

Comments

The idea of a natural sinking via unusual weather phenomenon may be the case but the high mystery of the weather forces involved is the anomaly in the Great lakes. The ship sank with all crew lost on November 10 1975 and this date is very symbolic. The 10th of November 1965 represents the date of the great northeast blackout which contrary to most thinking was an act of sabotage via enemy EMP and not an accident of natural power loss over the grid. So ten years later to the day the largest vessel ever used as live bait so to speak was sabotaged and sunk via the nefarious uasage of scalar EMP on the 10th the date being the calling card of the enemy. I am a strong believer that the Fitzgerald was used as a prime target by the Soviets/KGB in their quest to be able to sink any ship via the creation of rogue waves and the use of the blast effects and electrical anomalies of scalar EMP to disable a ship dead in the water. The sinking would then be easily accomplished via the rogue waves produced which would capsize the now listless vessel. This process has been done numerous times by the Russians and their partners in scalar crime over the years especially in the case of oil tankers sabotaged and sunk to the bottom. The waters of the Great Lakes are the ideal locations for anomalous weather factors to be induced via tornado like votexes and Tsunami like waves. Scalar EM energy can easily create storm effects over bodies of water as well as creating wave surges which will wreck havoc on shipping, making this an ideal wepons platform aginst the navies of the West. The sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald was just another live test by the Soviets to show the awesome power of scalar EMP in their continued conquest of the West via the use of unlimited power in the form of what has been called the Tesla Electromagnetic Death Ray, more commonly known as scalar EMP. The only way it could be proven as to what really caused the sinking of the E. Fitzgerald would be metalurgic study on the hulk to check on fractures and eutectic changes in the steel, also a check to see if any electro-mechanical outages or disturbances in instrumentation occurred that may have knocked out physical control of the ships engines and or navigational sytems, leading to the capsizing loss via a rogue wave and or anomalous wind shear vortex. Tyical signatures of EMP are elctromechanical outages as EM overloads and spikes knock out the electrical systems that control the ships drive leading to it being dead in the water and vulnerable to high waves and freakish winds. This is not a theory but actual scalar EM weapons research used by the enemy in the classic form of asymmetric warfare just short of the unthinkable use of thermonuclear weapons. 1975 was crtical period as then Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev had predicted the domination of the world via his fantastic scalar EM weapons so powerful and clandestine that the "mind of man could not imagine."


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: William Caldwell
Location: Laguna Hills, Ca
Email: organizme2  sbcglobal  .
Date: 10/25/2006
Remote Name: 68.4.118.80

Comments

I remember that time when the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost. It was a cold and snowy day in Michigan. I remember listening to the weather and it was gonna be a cold one. My mom and I heard of the ship going down on the radio. If I remember we prayed for them. We hoped that the people on the ship would be found and "OK". To this day I am sad about the ship going down. I may live in California now but I will always be a Michigander and I, once and a while, think of the ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bill
Location: Florida
Email: xchevroletbb  netzero  .
Date: 10/18/2006
Remote Name: 169.139.16.2

Comments

coming up on the anniversary date. Not forgotten. Families in prayers


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chuck Fentules
Location: Warren, Ohio
Email: kolosos35    .
Date: 10/10/2006
Remote Name: 76.2.247.57

Comments

The twenty-nine souls on the Edmund Fitzgerald were sweep away by the Gails of nature into the arms of God as stars to shine forever more. The love of God has worked thru the genius of Gordon Lightfoot to reach us all. So that love, could be multiplied a million times over, for all the sailors, and their families who have been part of the human tragedies on the Great Lakes. My deepest respect to the web site for the opportunity to express my feelings.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ruth
Location: Indianapolis
Email: ruvikings    .
Date: 10/8/2006
Remote Name: 24.123.218.82

Comments

There are those events that you never forget. I remember watching Monday Night Football up in Northern Minnesota when the news broke about the Edmund Fitzgerald tragedy. It hit close to home because my dad worked for the Erie Mining Co. near Hoyt Lakes, MN. I don't remember who was playing on that Monday night game, but I will never forget this. May they all rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mark Hagstrom
Location: Ashland, Wisconsin
Email: renegademark    .
Date: 10/4/2006
Remote Name: 68.187.137.165

Comments

I was a senior in high school when the Fitz when down. I remember being in Mr. Olson's science class when the principal came and told Beth Wilhelm, the daughter of Mr. Wilhelm and one of the 29 sailors. I often listen to the song by Gordon Lightfoot and cannot imagine the minutes that followed the last communication. God bless the Wilhelm family as well as ALL the families who lost there loved ones that day!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mel
Location: Glen Ellyn, Il
Email: melstickdorn    .
Date: 10/2/2006
Remote Name: 152.132.16.1

Comments

The Fitz was going to drop it's load off in Detroit then proceed to Cleveland where it was to be moored for the winter


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dennis Zambruno
Location: Hughson
Email: dendix1    .
Date: 9/28/2006
Remote Name: 207.200.116.133

Comments

Like Lightfoot wrote, "At 7 pm the old cook ran on deck saying 'Fellas it's too rough to feed you.' Later that nighy, when the main hatch gave in he said, 'Fellas it's been good to know you." Therefore I'm pretty convinced that the wreck came from a faulty hatch. Probably due to the storm.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Grieder
Location:
Email:
Date: 9/26/2006
Remote Name: 72.70.196.89

Comments

Rev. 20:13 (in part) says: And the sea gave up those dead in it, and death and Hades gave up those dead in them (tells of a wonderful resurrection to life by our wonderful God Jehovah!)


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Larry Freeman
Location: Atlanta Ga
Email: larryfreman44    .
Date: 9/13/2006
Remote Name: 69.180.0.87

Comments

I was 15 when The Edmund Fitzgerald went down. As an adult I worked offshore in the Gulf Of Mexico oil fields on a seismic boat, for about a year, and in that time the boat I was on, The Casey Chouset (pronounced Schewst)out ran three hurricanes, under capt Jim Brooks, during that time, I can relate to the part of the song that says "where does the love of god go when the waves turn the minutes to hours". I can not imagine what it was like on the lakes during that storm, but I have an idea. May the Crew of the Fitz rest in peace, and may their families some day have peace in their lives. My heart goes out to them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: suzi
Location: columbia , tn
Email: suzi_1405    .
Date: 9/7/2006
Remote Name: 129.59.8.10

Comments

May the families of the Fitz find peace. My brother who works at great lakes steel got to go on the Fitz yrs ago. He got to meet some of the crew he said it was a built ship and some of the nicest men you would ever want to meet. May God bless the families and friends of the ones lost on the Fitz. Its still hard to let go...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Frank P. Ferraro
Location: Waterford Pa 16441
Email: Ahabscabin  webtv  .
Date: 9/7/2006
Remote Name: 209.240.206.206

Comments

Dear sir/mam We must never forget those who died doing their job on the big Fitz . With honor to the crew I call the ship by its nick name. Sometimes I feel that only those who made up the crew, should be able to say the name Big Fitz. But as Long as I have them in my prayers I will always mention the nick name when speaking of the Edmund Fitzgerald. And now I will share with all who read this letter the prayer I recite when I retire at night. Oh Father of the land and sea the creator of the universe and all that shall come. Oh Father remember those who have called your name at sea for their spirits have returned to thee. Your mercy is never in doubt. All Glory belongs to thee in the earth on the land and to those who parish at sea. Our lives must run the designated course .But the judgment of eternity we must leave to thee. And now to the Captain and the crew. May God have you in his holy Keeping. Yours truly Frank P. Ferraro


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: joseph funtash
Location: cleveland
Email: jflinstone01    .
Date: 9/3/2006
Remote Name: 205.188.116.8

Comments

I learned about the ship when I young my dad was a fireman on the augest zizing I was on the ship and want to follow my fathers footsteps I will pray for the men on the ship my dad name was mike funtash 25 years on the ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Al
Location: Alpena, MI
Email:
Date: 8/31/2006
Remote Name: 70.104.125.230

Comments

Always been interested in the Fitz. Read everything on it I could get my hands on. A few years ago, I got invited to tour the Arthur Anderson. She was fully loaded at Stone Port and I was standing in the wheel house looking out onto Lake Huron. It seemed I was a mile in the air. It is amazing that the waves were breaking OVER the wheel house the night of the storm! I tend to think that based on the account of Capt. Paquette, a combo of hatch covers not fully clamped, and the shole lead to her demise. A lake as long and big as Superior with wind building and pushing down on the lake with gusts to 80/90 mph would rip a hatch cover like paper if not fully clamped. Ask the old timers who sailed then. A lot of these youngsters that sail now think a storm is 50 mph and 10 ft waves. Nov 10, 1975 was a storm that has never been equaled. And with luck will never ever be again. May the 29 brave men never be forgot. God bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: gary prieskorn
Location: pleasant lake, michigan
Email: kdebruler  earthlink  .
Date: 8/25/2006
Remote Name: 216.144.203.207

Comments

my grandfather sailed the great lakes for many years, was shipwrecked once on lake huron off rogers city, he was rescued and lived to tell his story, not true of the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald, my thoughts are with the family and loved ones of that crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jack Roberts
Location: Salem, Ohio
Email:
Date: 8/24/2006
Remote Name: 216.207.201.194

Comments

A friend of mines father was on the investigating committee with the Great Lakes Carrier Assoc. I spoke to him personally about the wreck after I visited The Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum in 1995. He was absolutely convinced of the shoal grounding scenario. His opinion was based on years of marine engineering experience. He had a lot of detailed information on the shipwreck, including course charts, the exact proximity of the Fitz to caribou shoals based on the Arthur Andersons radar logs. He was also aware of the fact that the navigation charts on the Fitz were outdated and inaccurate for this area of the lake, And how the ship acted after grounding,, ie. the list, the broken rail, etc. The grounding weakened the bottom, causing the eventual hull failure. If you combine the water ladened weakened hull with a nose dive from the three sisters theory, the taconite load would have catastrophically shifted forward, plummeting the bow, and the weight of the upended stern would fracture at the weakened middle. This leaves absolutely no time for the crew to respond.

Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: william
Location:
Email:
Date: 8/22/2006
Remote Name: 68.112.62.207

Comments

I am about to turn 60 on nov 10, I have kept my mouth shut for all these years. most who I think are dead now ,cannot be hurt. I knew some of these men who went down with the Fitz, work with some of them during lay ups, GOD I hope I am wrong, some one check the frame where she broke apart, you mite find the frames were repaired. not by sister frames, but cut out and welded in, no rivets were used


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: steve connor
Location: doncaster, england
Email: sconnor1  blueyonder
Date: 8/19/2006
Remote Name: 82.38.88.193

Comments

listening to gordon lightfoot.s song the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald, i know alot more about the edmund, this song is so haunting you can actually be on the ship if you close your eyes ,god bless all of those who died.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tracey Mitchell
Location: Scotland UK
Email: t.mitchell  tesco  .
Date: 8/9/2006
Remote Name: 62.252.128.16

Comments

I have just found this site, I stayed in the soo ontario when this happened. We had not long lost my father, and my mother and brother were huddled in the basement during the storm. I can remember it like it was yesterday. May the 29 men rest in peace


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tommy Carroll
Location: |Liverpool, UK
Email: Tommyblastfinder
Date: 8/7/2006
Remote Name: 195.93.21.1

Comments

I hadn't heard the song "wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" for twenty years-It was very popular upon release in my hometown Liverpool, being a seaport- Hearing it again today has led me to this and other sites concerning the 'EF'...I would like to draw readers ention to a similar tragedy to have befallen the Derbyshire (originally 'Liverpool Bridge') May we remember ALL those who die at sea in a fitting way: by ensuring ALL vessels are as safe as technology allows, not as profit dictates. Tommy


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Betsy
Location: Cloverdale, IN
Email: blmyers  iupui.edu
Date: 8/5/2006
Remote Name: 209.132.164.10

Comments

I remember hearing Gordon Lighfoot's song frequently on my dad's favorite radio station when I was a kid and thought what a haunting song it is. The ironic thing about the date of the sinking is that my father-in-law died of prostate cancer exactly 30 years and one day after the Edmund Fitzgerald went down. When I looked closer about info about the ship, I realized that many of the guys who died on that ship were his age.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Terri
Location: Chicago, IL
Email: JSanto7134  a
Date: 8/4/2006
Remote Name: 64.12.116.198

Comments

I wish I could hug everyone who lost a loved on the Fitz and cry with them. I am so glad that Gordon Lightfoot wrote/performed that wonderful song to honor and preserve the memories.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Skouson
Location: Lapeer, Michigan
Email:
Date: 7/31/2006
Remote Name: 69.209.141.28

Comments

I took my family to the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum on Whitefish point. What an awesome place to visit and learn of the history of this part of the Great Lakes. The movie about the Fitzgerald was very moving. Even my 6 year old "got it". My heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones on the Great Lakes. I have sailed them a few times when a storm is just coming on, and let me tell you, it is frightening how fast and furious those waters can change.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: e,orourke
Location: lancaster,ny
Email: ejorourke  verizon  .
Date: 7/27/2006
Remote Name: 71.243.156.58

Comments

first and foremost god bless the crew and their families, my thoughts are she hit the shoals and did damage , it was reported that she was in the path of twin 30 footers, with the hull damaged , the extra weight when she came up on the big waves, she either broke in two when her hull was out of the water or her bow nose dived and she broke, but I truly believe she broke on the surface like the Carl D. Bradley. sudden , unexpected and no time really to radio , god bless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Andrew, Heather, and GB Dunn
Location: San Diego, CA
Email: dunnandrew  excite  .
Date: 7/26/2006
Remote Name: 66.74.219.217

Comments

As a fellow mariner I especially appreciate your website and devotion to those lost on Edmund Fitzgerald. God bless us a tragedy of this never happens on the Great Lakes again. Regards, A Dunn


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Frank Pacella
Location: Gainesville Florida
Email: Jakatakarate    .
Date: 7/21/2006
Remote Name: 68.226.3.229

Comments

The loss of this ship has never left my mind. I spent many years on the water and know the type of men who go to the sea. You love it but also fear it. Each wave is different, You act on water never thinking about what to do.Im sure those men were doing what had to be done and never knew what was about to happen, it just happened. sailors die a different death. They live on .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: angie chilton
Location: porterville ca.
Email: tnteddybear    .
Date: 7/16/2006
Remote Name: 207.200.116.137

Comments

my thoughts are as sorrowed as i know now the lost that happened on that night i have lost a great deal in my life and as i right this my thoughts i hope will travel to the loved ones of that crew and they not morn the lose but look at the joy that there were givin the chance to be with the love they were meant to be with even though it was shortened by the great lose they endured i hope in time they will be reunited and the lost will forever be no more



Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Daniel L.
Location: Poteet< Tx
Email: laquesr    .
Date: 7/12/2006
Remote Name: 70.252.18.242

Comments

God Bless all the brave Men onboard the Fitzgerald and may they all be sailing in the Big Lake in Heaven.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom
Location: Eau Claire, WI
Email: crowfields    .
Date: 7/2/2006
Remote Name: 68.115.77.181

Comments

I do believe the Fitz touched bottom at six fathom shoal, which damaged the integrity of the hull. She was listing, and the combination of the list and a large wave may have rolled her on her side. This poorly supported position may have snapped her and sent her down. Eternal peace to all of her people.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Candy ferguson
Location: Michigan
Email: michnightbeacon    .
Date: 6/26/2006
Remote Name: 152.131.8.132

Comments

I think of this accident every day and have collected everything I can on the Fitz. Bless these scered souls who live under sea yet. They are forever in our thoughts and memories.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Capt. Galen D. Owen
Location: Va. Beach, Virginia
Email: tugcapn  cox  .
Date: 6/25/2006
Remote Name: 66.174.79.234

Comments

Being a mariner myself I sympathize for the families of the lost crew. I feel hatch cover leak allowed water into forward hold and eventually caused ship to break apart. May the sun always be in your face and the wind at your back.....PEACE.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dirk Oostveen
Location: Lake Odessa Mi
Email: oostveen  sbcglobal  .
Date: 6/22/2006
Remote Name: 75.11.211.153

Comments

Its weird how my 13 year old son loves this song, and never knew that there was a real ship. That and he was amazed at the size of the ship. he also commented that for its size that it would go down. Its just goes to show you how much God is in control of or world. God bless to the families and friends of all those who were lost


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: michael
Location: marquette,mi/central florida
Email: taskforce_cvn73    .
Date: 6/17/2006
Remote Name: 65.35.64.223

Comments

I was a teenager when the mighty Fitz went down.. my Father worked on the L.S.& I. railroad/ore dock... I used to bring him his lunch an watch as the freighters would come an go...the most that I can say about the Fitz an that fateful night is that lake superior can be very mean. the storm that night was very bad compared to most other storms. I think it was the 3 sisters that did the mighty Fitz in as for anyone ever knowing how or why this happened we'll never know...my heart to this day feels sad...R.I.P Mighty Fitz and all that sailed on her...you are still in our thoughts an prayers...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Phil Turner
Location: Oxfordshire, England
Email: canucki69    .
Date: 6/14/2006
Remote Name: 195.93.21.1

Comments

I grew up in Canada on the Great Lakes and remember the sinking of Fitz. Am now living in England but still think about the tragedy. It's real nice that there are a lot of folks who remember and keep remembering the poor sailors and their families. Like Jake who left a previous message, I still get tingles down my spine when I here Gordon Lightfoots song on the radio. It is played on the radio over here. God bless all who lost there life that night and god protect all those who sail the Great Lakes today.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Zac Hendricksen
Location: Salt lake UT
Email:
Date: 6/6/2006
Remote Name: 64.136.26.235

Comments

I was very impressed and moved by the wreck of the E.F and my sympathy goes out to those family's


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rich
Location: Sharon, MA
Email: eightball_thruhiker    .
Date: 6/4/2006
Remote Name: 72.72.15.165

Comments

Obviously a tragedy so I echo the sentiments already voiced here. A ship doesn't just break in half. There needs to be a contributing factor or factors. I'm firmly in the leaking hatch camp. Not being a ship designer myself and way out of the loop on how ships are built I would still offer this thought: Why not design ships to an underwater standard? This would allow them to, at the very least, temporarily submerge and recover in the roughest of storms. I'm sure cost is a limiting factor but think of the lives that could be saved. From a monetary perspective how much do you lose when a ship goes down and all hands are lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kathryn Lenertz
Location: Rosemount, MN
Email: elen  msn  .
Date: 5/21/2006
Remote Name: 70.98.16.219

Comments

God bless all the souls of the sailors on the Great Lakes! I've bee to Sault Ste. Marie and learned all about the Fitz and listen to Gordon's song every day! It is so sad to know that the 29 men aboard the E.F. died doing their duty without a cry for help. I can't think about how the families of the men on the Fitz must have felt!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Judi shaw
Location: N.C
Email: carolinamountaingirl2004    .
Date: 5/9/2006
Remote Name: 69.34.158.146

Comments

First I could like to say that my heart and prayers go out to the family and friends of the captain and crew of the Fitzgerald. I think that they hit a rouge wave. I think it was taking on water from the hatches leaking and when they hit the wave they went under and it broke the ships back into and it never came back up. May they rest in Peace and May God take each one into his keeping, Amen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dombrowski Family
Location: Sheldon, Il
Email: ken.jen  mchsi  .
Date: 5/9/2006
Remote Name: 12.215.223.72

Comments

Our family prays and will remember all those perished on "America's Pride", The EDMUND FITZGERALD!! God Bless ALL who are survived by the victims.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: anita pardue
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Email: parduepntngco  adelphia  .
Date: 5/7/2006
Remote Name: 24.51.155.91

Comments

I work on with my husband on new construction sites and not a day passes that someone does not request Gordon Lightfoot's song "The Edmund Fitzgerald". This tells me that there are many individuals who think of the ship and its crewman. It is with both great sympathy and also salutation to the brave crewman and their families that this is sent. May it bring solace to them knowing that radio stations across the US bring us daily reminders of the tragedy. That also gives us a greater appreciation of those we are blessed to have upon this earth and to cherish each day. May God Bless You, Everyone.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brenda
Location: Newport, I
Email:
Date: 5/2/2006
Remote Name: 205.208.227.49

Comments

My social studies teacher showed a documentary on the Edmund Fitzgerald and it made me feel bad for the families left behind with only memories. I wish the best for them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: kerri goodell
Location: Lincoln Park MI
Email: j.goodell  sbcglobal  .
Date: 5/2/2006
Remote Name: 70.225.119.91

Comments

Its sad of how no one made it out alive it was a hard time for the families. In my heart I hope they will REST IN PEACE.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chase Bartlebaugh
Location: Mogadore, Ohio
Email: Das_BombStead01    .
Date: 5/1/2006
Remote Name: 204.210.189.63

Comments

I think, after living around these storms for quite awhile, and reading quite a bit on maritime incidents, I think it took on water, causing some cargo to shift, and capsizing in lake Erie, and landing in its current position. I know that the great lakes are shallow, but its possible.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: derek
Location: rhode island
Email: rustyboard    .
Date: 4/28/2006
Remote Name: 207.69.136.203

Comments

I will say it again , Bernie cooper nailed it... the Fitz and Mcsorely grazed 6 fathoms shoal, hatch clamps were not the problem...the captain reported a list, ie side to side not a pitch aft as some suggested. the ship plowed thru a 35 foot wave and was driven to the bottom with a belly full of sea water and ore. The water they were taking on was the direct result of a hull breech and where that exactly was, is any one's guess! The coast guard and navy were way off base and blew the call. Cooper knows , and if you listen to what he is saying, his experience gives every one closure. You can't navigate that weather with no radar and no land reference beacon...hail,snow,white out conditions, hurricane force winds...40 foot seas, and a slight miscalculation took their lives and could have taken all of the other ships that searched for the Fitz that night ...courage is going back out in a weather bomb to find nothing! My thoughts and prayers always!


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