The Loss of the
Edmund Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: A.J. Cushman
Location: Olivet, Mi.
Email: willieburp  cablespeed  .
Date: 4/27/2006
Remote Name: 24.56.215.135

Comments

I'm originally from Sault Ste.. Marie & I can still remember the storm of Nov. 10th,1975. I had just graduated from high school. That night I saw huge oak trees ripped right out of the ground. Down by the locks the winds had driven the water up over the locks and filled up the lower parking lots to over the parked cars. Man, you would not believe how cold it was too. It was sure scary in the Sault that night, I can't imagine how frightening it was out on the lake. A few years latter I was sitting down at Brady park at the entrance of the locks , playing my guitar when I heard a boat horn blow(the lakers toot them when they leave the locks) so, I turned around and there was the Fitzgerald just as big as life! went home and told my dad what I saw and he thought I was crazy. A few days later I found out it was the sister ship painted to look like the Edmund Fitzgerald for a movie someone was making. I've played the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald in my act for years and each time I play it I think of that night and how scary it was, so to the crew of the big Fitz, rest in peace in the rooms of her ice water mansion.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris Miller
Location: East Stroudsburg ,PA
Email: millman614  yahoo  .
Date: 4/26/2006
Remote Name: 24.238.77.209

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I think as a result of the extremely rough conditions of the water, Waves at 35ft and gale force winds of up to 70mph that the main structure of the ship was stressed to the point that the ship broke in two. The mass tonnage that was aboard possibly shifted in the rough seas and in combination with the helpless ship being twisted and tossed at the mercy of the waters was too much for the infrastructure and literally caused it break in two. I don't believe it was anyone's fault that the ship went down. I believe that the conditions that night were well beyond the point of being so severe that there was nothing anyone on board could have done to stop the terrible disaster that occurred. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the families and friends of the 29 men that perished in the wake of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I hope someday there will an answer to this 30 year-plus question so we can finally know the truth and have closure. Sincerely Chris Miller


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: George
Location: peterborough
Email: george  printstar  .
Date: 4/24/2006
Remote Name: 24.235.163.206

Comments

In my opion the ship split in half


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Frank dyer
Location: cortlandt manor ny
Email: drac362  optonline  .
Date: 4/23/2006
Remote Name: 68.199.14.245

Comments

This is America's greatest maritime disaster, It mirrors the Titanic disaster in that despite our advances in technology, we are no match for the forces of nature... Chief Joseph said " the earth does not belong to us, we belong to the earth" May God give peace to the families of the lost rest assured, the dead are in heaven and will be there when you arrive...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kassie
Location: Ontario
Email: 2dburns  rogers  .
Date: 4/22/2006
Remote Name: 72.140.118.53

Comments

I am very sorry for the Edmund Fitzgerald and all the 29 men who died. I am so interested in the Edmund Fitzgerald. I just want to learn more about it.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: m.kane
Location: hawaii u.s.a.
Email: na
Date: 4/19/2006
Remote Name: 72.234.141.208

Comments

may god look over the crew of the edmund fitzgerald and the family's i was only five years old at the time we lost the fitz


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob Brearley
Location: Chicago, Il
Email: bobb  mchc  .
Date: 4/17/2006
Remote Name: 206.222.51.100

Comments

Just a few, having sailed the great Lakes and slept (as a baby) in a dresser drawer my heart aches for all those lost good men. I had the good fortune to sail the Andersen with my dad as first mate. I spent many a summer on the lakes from Buffalo to Superior. I just wish I could do it again. My dad Capt. Tom Brearley sailed for the M A Hanna line and later the Browning Line (remember the Bob-Lo boats in the Detroit river?). Great days in my early youth, there is nothing like the smell of that Cauhouga River going up to the old us steel plant in Cleveland or even the Ford plant in Detroit. Good days and my heart is with all the Great Lakes sailors and their family's. I did visit upper Mich and some of the exhibits. Heart wrenching and warming. Good luck to ALL!!!!!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Glenn Coffman
Location: Williamsport IN
Email:
Date: 4/16/2006
Remote Name: 12.208.56.201

Comments

Godspeed to the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald. May you rest now with the wind on your stern through calm waters.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sean Boggs
Location: Elyria, OH
Email: seancjh  comcast  .
Date: 4/14/2006
Remote Name: 24.131.20.7

Comments

I'm very interested in the Edmund because, my Uncle, whom I am very close to, used to work at the Lorain OH Shipyards. As I remember it, He at one time or another, worked on the ship?? Personally, My view would be driven by who the heck sent her out anyway? I would like to see a Doppler radar report! I know that wasn't possible at that time, just the point?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: james kunstman
Location: appleton wi.
Email: kunstman4  aol  .
Date: 4/9/2006
Remote Name: 64.12.116.198

Comments

I think the ship hit hard at six fathom shoal. took on water for sometime, weighting her down even more. the 2 consecutive waves were too much for her to overcome. she nosedived in and never recovered. it was all over almost immediately rest in peace Fitz and crew!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: keith mcsorley
Location: allendale
Email: keith481  yahoo  .
Date: 4/5/2006
Remote Name: 64.85.129.7

Comments

My heart goes out to the families of the crew and captain and I am happy the governments have prohibited any further dives I was only 10 years old when it went down hope no ones does not ever forget the ship and the people who was on her my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of the whole crew I hope someday I will be able to get up there and see the bell from the ship god bless the families


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Charles
Location: New York
Email: vavso  juno  .
Date: 4/3/2006
Remote Name: 69.123.46.102

Comments

I still to this day feel such sorrow in my heart for the loss of those brave soles that fateful day. I only hope time has softened the hurt and grief suffered by the family members . God bless you all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Billy McCoy
Location: Wausau, WI USA
Email: bmccoy8866  aol  .
Date: 4/3/2006
Remote Name: 70.8.112.98

Comments

Hi, I am a Great Lakes surfer ... and I thought I'd share this with others interested in the Edmund Fitzgerald history. I have been working on a new longboard all winter, and I wanted to add something to it that would be 'Great Lakes-ish' ... I found a sketch of the Edmund Fitzgerald wreckage and laminated it into the nose of the board, along with the words of Gordon Lightfoot "The Lake, it is said, never gives up her dead ... when the skies of November turn gloomy." How ironic that at the 30 year anniversary of the wreck, we had incredible surf across the Lakes that day last fall ...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John King
Location: Lexington,Ma
Email: STAlaska  aol  .
Date: 4/1/2006
Remote Name: 205.188.116.8

Comments

Who really knows where the love of God goes when the waves turn the minutes to hours God bless the 29


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Candis Garringer
Location: Michigan
Email: michnightbeacon  hotmail  .
Date: 3/31/2006
Remote Name: 152.131.8.132

Comments

Bless them all. This tale will never be forgotten nor will the memories of the crew. I have seen the museum at Whitefish Point and the bell and it is overwhelming to see and feel the eeriness of the era. This event ,although sad will go down in history so to say forever more. Both lake and ship are unforgettable.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: James Pomeroy
Location: Jocotepec, Mexico
Email: mxyooper  yahoo  .
Date: 3/30/2006
Remote Name: 201.121.195.159

Comments

If my understanding is correct, I find it curious that after the Fitzgerald went down that the official Coast Guard charts for that portion of Lake Superior showed a shoal formerly indicated in one area had been redrawn on charts and now appeared in the vicinity where the Fitzgerald could possibly have come down in a wave trough and cracked her keel on it, leading to a weakness that finally broke her hull when she rode over the top of a subsequent wave.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Peter Triebel
Location: Chemnitz (Germany)
Email: /
Date: 3/30/2006
Remote Name: 88.72.45.233

Comments

Hy.I`m a pupil of a high school and today at the english lesson we talked about the fitzgerald,wrote articles and read the text in our books.(they say that there were killed 30 to 35 man) Maybe the cargo was too weight and broke the ship in two parts well, Mir tun die Manner leid good day Peter


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bart
Location: Pensacola, FL
Email: hobart.simpson  navy.mil
Date: 3/23/2006
Remote Name: 138.162.0.37

Comments

Honor to the 29 men lost that tragic night and to the grief filled families they left behind. The FITZ will never be forgotten, as school children of every new generation learn to love the memory and story of the great American ship SS Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: steve
Location: virginia
Email: steveuk23229  yahoo  .
Date: 3/20/2006
Remote Name: 24.125.214.182

Comments

I remember it from when I was still a kid in England.(my daughter of 7 year old mentioned it to me just recently, how can u explain it to a 7 year old when I was only 11 at the time and in England as well). sorry to say but it is a landmark event in my memory. and I was not even here. but if nothing else, a 7 yr old and a 40 yr old are still sorry for the loss. we both still say a prayer for the lost


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott Helms
Location: Sanford Me
Email: hels92  hotmail  .
Date: 3/19/2006
Remote Name: 64.222.236.60

Comments

After reading the report from the USCG I feel that the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald should be investigated again to find out the truth on why the ship went down. I have worked on the sea and everyone knows that if ur in trouble the capt should have put out a distress call there ids something wrong with the report .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bill soper
Location: Welland Ont. Canada
Email: billsoper  rogers   .
Date: 3/17/2006
Remote Name: 72.58.3.191

Comments

It was a great lose of the crew of the Edmond Fitzgerald. Born and raised in Welland and Port Colborne I seen her several times. I was lucky to have sailed on a few ships in my younger days and just loved it. I have never given up my love for sailing but had to for starting a family. Wish I was still there.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dorena
Location: Southaven,Mississippi
Email: dgive703  yahoo  .
Date: 3/12/2006
Remote Name: 66.194.108.101

Comments

I grew up listening to the song by Gordon Lightfoot of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It saddens me everytime I listen to it.I can't imagine how terrified the crew must have been when she started to go down in that cold,black water. Even now when I look at her on the websites ,it chills me to think about what happened and how much of a mystery it is that she went down. I do know that when Mother nature is angry that Lake Superior does show her anger. It could have been the storm and the fact that the ship was to long and wasn't strengthen enough in her middle when taking on water with the weight she was carrying. Either way she was a loss we won't ever forget. I was only 16 when she went down, but I can still remember hearing the news of the tragedy. I feel for those families that lost loved ones with her. Only believe that they are always on our minds, in our hearts and a permanent scar on all of our souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dunny
Location: carver
Email: gunnydunny  yahoo  .
Date: 3/7/2006
Remote Name: 69.174.209.191

Comments

My regards to the family of all the brave men


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: harley
Location: hannawa falls,NY
Email: akley03  yahoo  .
Date: 3/2/2006
Remote Name: 69.202.143.155

Comments

another death linked to this ship was a rough start at the beginning the guy had a heart attack and died.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Robb
Location: Port Huron Mi.
Email: davidrobb101  comcast  .
Date: 2/28/2006
Remote Name: 68.42.166.68

Comments

I come from a family of Great Lakes sailors, including my father my uncles and even a cousin. I remember my father gave up sailing to raise a family but my uncle continued sailing until the late 1960s. His last ship was the Edmund Fitzgerald. As children growing up living on lake Huron and the St. Clair River my dad used to take us out on our boat when the Fitzgerald was sailing past Port Huron so we could talk to my uncle. He used to come to the door on the engine room for a brief visit as they sailed past.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: brian b
Location: princeton MN
Email: bjsbeck  msn  .
Date: 2/22/2006
Remote Name: 63.231.158.44

Comments

I think the Fitz got caught between two huge waves and split in two!?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: R Lavoie
Location: Britt, On, Canada
Email: schumi1_rl  hotmail  .
Date: 2/19/2006
Remote Name: 66.180.67.4

Comments

The father of a very good friend of mine, from where I reside. Sailed that route 33 times a year, for a few years, before the incident, and he believes, that the ship, hit the shoal at Caribou island and damaged the hull. With all the pumps on, not being able to keep up with the incoming water, when she was turned for the route to Whitefish Bay, she listed badly, and eventually sunk. Also, the American crew, were not to familier with the canadian side of the lake. And in combination with the storm, put them to far to the east, from there proper shipping lane. He also wondered, why it seemed like it was hushed up, about the shoal. One could probably go back today, and dive around that shoal, and determine, if a ship, surely the size of the Edmund Fitzgerald, scraped along it somewhere.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tim McCarthy
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Email: tmccarthybrowns  aol  .
Date: 2/18/2006
Remote Name: 24.131.210.246

Comments

I remember back in 1977 while being a new deckhand on the Paul Thayer (now the Earl W. Oglebay) we passed near White Fish Bay. The 1st mate mentioned to me that this is where they think the Fitz when down a year and a half earlier. I believe at that time no one knew where she rested. I took a moment and said a prayer for all those lost souls. I was from Cleveland and was working for the same company as the Fitz. My last name is McCarthy and he told me that the mate on the Fitz was McCarthy also. I felt a proud connect. I knew as an 18 year old kid that what happened to the Fitz is the worst possible thing that could happen to me. I decided that I was OK with that, and felt more as ease doing what I was doing. I guess I was a scared kid and the reason I would be OK with such an abrupt end to a life, is the way I felt at that moment about those guys. I thought that perhaps if something similar happened to me others would feel the same about me should I join the crew of Fitz. I knew that those lost souls were brothers and I would always looks up to them! Now at 47 years old I still think of that moment when we thought we were sailing over those guys and I still get a kindred feeling and say a prayer. God bless them and their families! P.S. I personally think that they hit the shoal (bottomed out) which jeopardized the integrity of the ships hull. While being pounded by Superior, the taconite shifted, and she broke in two. Tim McCarthy


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dwayne Edward Hidson
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Email: dwaynehidson  shaw  .
Date: 2/16/2006
Remote Name: 24.76.104.195

Comments

Hi! I work overnights at Wal-Mart Canada and we have the Wal- Mart radio. I hear Gordon Lightfoots song and in the still of the night stocking the shelves I can't help, but to think of the 29 men who perished! I was 15 at the time and my mother had followed the news reports and I felt her anguish and final sadness when it became apparent the crew was lost! I always remember sitting in the kitchen and doing my homework and Mom listening to the radio as if it were one of her own who was on the E.F. and at the time she was baking her famous Christmas cake! It was cold in Winnipeg as it always is in November and she said; I can't imagine being out in a ship in a storm! I think it stays in my mind because you always think of ships on the Atlantic such as the Titanic but on Lake Superior?, how can that be possible? I voted for load shift as the weight in a fully loaded trailer when shifted can cause a trailer to turn over! This is what I think happened to the E.F.! My mother passed away in April 1999 of cancer and because of her I always remember the Edmund Fitzgerald! God Bless those 29 men and all their family and friends!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeff S.
Location: River Rouge
Email:
Date: 2/14/2006
Remote Name: 68.43.216.50

Comments

The great community of River Rouge felt this loss as personal. Many of our residents worked in the shipyard that built the mighty "Fitz." She will always be an important part of our community's history.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ronnie
Location: kent
Email: rmckeown05 aol
Date: 2/13/2006
Remote Name: 195.93.21.68

Comments

aprograme on television brought it all back to me as i was a young man at the time and when the played the music i could of cryed may there soles rest in piece


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jon
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin
Email: xcaliber1969  yahoo  .
Date: 2/4/2006
Remote Name: 70.224.230.66

Comments

So many people believe in that there was a "6 Fathom shoal". It, like most of what has become to be known as "fact" in this story...just isn't so. My theories are the area know to be the track of the Fitzgerald was resounded after the wreck. No such structure (shoal) was ever found. In other words... how can the Fitz hit something that simply does not exist? To answer this question you must look at the blame game. If she was not maitained properly...Big problems financially for the shipping company and the owner of the vessel.. North Western Mutual Life Insurance company. But if she "shoaled"... the it becomes more of an act of nature...than negligence of man. And then of course... the Hatch covers for good measure. Blame the dead for they can't defend themselves. It is said....Dead men tell no tales. The fact is... the Fitzgerald was probably sinking before she even left the dock in Superior. And if you don't want to beleive that... we do know that she was sinking 13 hours before the storm even started. That is FACT. 13 hours before McSorley reported the Fence rail down, She reported back to the Anderson that she was experiencing "springing and flexing". She then SLOWED down by 10% on the screw. Allowing the Anderson to close the gap. Keep in mind, as the storm intensified, she slowed even more! AFTER the Fence rail went down. It is a KNOWN fact that the Fitzgerald had a busted keel. Proper repairs of the keel would have cost (estimate for 1974) half a million dollars and required the Fitz to be taken from service for an ENTIRE shipping season. The shipping company did not want to lose the Revenue (10's of MILLIONS of dollars in lost revenue if not more) the Fitz produced...so they made a "quick Fix" repair to the same spot that kept breaking loose repeatedly. The Fitz was springing excessively 13 hours prior to the storm hitting the lake. This is where the "problems" started. The pilot house door is open. There is a door open on the stern section as well. The lack of damage to the prop would indicate that the prop was not turning at the time of the wreck. Lack of damage to the prop is probably the most important piece of evidence in this investigation... but is ALWAYS overlooked. open doors, life vests, no damage to the screw... all point in one direction... these guys knew she was breaking apart. Point is this... if you have a problem with water leaking into your basement... you DON'T turn on the faucet! In other words... You don't opend a bunch of doors allowing water in...when common sense will tell you to keep water OUT! I thought a body found in 1994 has a cork type life vest Identified to be that of the era of the Fitzgerald is outside the ship. This all points in one direction. These boys knew the Fitz was done in. They knew they were going down. So the "nose dive" theory is also FALSE. While some credit could go to the "rogue wave" theory... that could have given "assistance" in the sinking... but the facts are the facts. She was sinking early on. Rogue waves could have dealth the final death blow.. but only because of the structural failure symptoms described 13 hours before the fence rail went down. She broke on the surface due to Structural failure, and lack of proper maintenance. There were other ships out there that night. Much larger ones. Remember the Anderson was 767 feet long. Also Fully loaded. The William C. Ford, left the safety of whitefish bay to go search for survivors. They all shared the same risks. There were Salty vessels out there as well. Non sank. The one thing all those ships had in common. They did not have a busted keel. The Fitz did. The Mighty Fitz...not so Mighty with a broken back. Those men didn't have a chance. I think the company killed those men. All for the all mighty dollar. This is what I believe after doing 30 years of research on the subject, and being a family member of one of the lost crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Steve Lake
Location: Paradise , Micigan
Email: s.fosterlake  yahoo  .
Date: 2/3/2006
Remote Name: 69.218.254.118

Comments

My father and his cousin both own cottages on the whitefish bay shore . All the times that I have spent up there , I always start my first moment by looking out over the lake and trying to imagine that great ship with it's brave souls , slowly passing by in the afternoon . And from that same spot I look north and see the light at crisp point and wonder about the stories that it could tell . The story of the Fitz and her crew will forever send a chill up my spine . And when I stand in the icy water of Superior , I like to think that I am somehow closer to knowing the brave men and women that have gone below that icy water never to be seen again .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dave Smith
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Email:
Date: 1/31/2006
Remote Name: 64.230.20.241

Comments

I was just short of turning 13 when the Edmund Fitzgerald sank. At the time, I had a local paper route in Kingston, Ontario, where I grew up. The sinking of the Fitz was of course front page news, and one of the headlines I will never forget from that era. Since then, I have had an interest about the ship and other lakers that met the same fate. Indeed, the Great Lakes are truly inland oceans, and we should recognize and appreciate the risks taken by the crews who staff these ships that keep our North American economy rolling.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Evan
Location: Wothington Ohio
Email: Eman6875  gmail  .
Date: 1/31/2006
Remote Name: 24.26.144.115

Comments

I think its sad and a mystery of what happened. I think that what they say happened is not what really happen s.s Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: W. Holliday
Location: So. Pines, NC
Email: SaltDogs
Date: 1/25/2006
Remote Name: 204.57.103.2

Comments

I remember learning about the SS Edmund Fitzgerald on the Discovery Channel when I was visiting my uncle in Baton Rouge. I was very interested and couldn't stop watching. What a tragic event, it should never be forgotten, my prayers are with all families, friends, and sailors.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bryant Backstrom
Location: minneapolis minnesota
Email:
Date: 1/17/2006
Remote Name: 205.188.116.8

Comments

I agree with captian Cooper's theory that the ship took a nose dive by a huge wave there was no shoal accident the hatch covers must of had a crack or hole in it and the crew didn't know.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David
Location:
England
Email:
davidtaylor85  yahoo  .
Date: 1/12/2006
Remote Name: 86.143.244.91

Comments

The sad loss of a proud ship and crew. Always remember and learn. God bless.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bill
Location: Larchmont , NY
Email:
Date: 1/11/2006
Remote Name: 47.234.0.51

Comments

In 1976 when Gordon Lightfoot's song came out about the Edmund Fitzgerald my older brother told me it was a true story. As a kid it gave me chills listening to this song but I always thought it was a great song. I was very young in 76 (7 years old ) but I never heard ANYTHING in school about the Edmund Fitzgerald, I was in 2nd grade but even though High School there was nothing really said about it. When I came to this site I was surprised so many people are still talking about it. I don't think the common person from other states outside MI really understand or know to much about this. I feel the same way about 911 & the WTC. I really don't think ANYBODY outside NY/NJ/CT really understands how BIG those Buildings were & what went on that day in 2001. They were SO BIG it was like 3 Buildings on top of one another. You saw it all on TV but it's different cause after the show ends you forget about it but we live with it. It's still so shocking 5 years later. That story will be told for the next 100 years. I'm sure the people from MI felt the way I did when the WTC fell down, it's really sad. I don't live in NYC but I'm only 45 minutes away & more then a few people from my town worked in that building. It was so sad watching people jump out of the windows, it didn't seem real, it was like a movie. Anyway, it's nice to know you people didn't forget about the past & those brave sailors on that awful day in 1975. God bless them all & God bless YOU.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: J.B. First
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Email: uscg2926  msn  .
Date: 1/10/2006
Remote Name: 63.157.92.80

Comments

Ralph Walton,Oiler, was a neighbor of mine on Morrison St. in Fremont,OH. and he went down with 28 others on that fateful November 10th evening. I remember the weather was almost like late summer, though we had freezing rain forcast for that night. It is a sad part of my life and one I shall always remember. Sleep in Peace, sailor friend of mine. Sleep.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ed
Location: kucharek
Email: edkucharek  sbcglobal  .
Date: 1/7/2006
Remote Name: 70.245.160.45

Comments

sad, sad thing that happened that night. my daughter heard the song by gordan lightfoot and i told her the story of the "big fitz" she said it was very sad. godspeed to her crew.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tyler
Location: Lake Orion Mi
Email: 48362
Date: 1/6/2006
Remote Name: 216.11.82.254

Comments

I miss my dad and I wish he could be here.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: bill hoffman
Location: rockville md
Email: avonguy2000  yahoo  .
Date: 1/3/2006
Remote Name: 69.140.41.8

Comments

the resting place Edmund Fitz is a grave site pls no more diving on the ship pls let brave seaman rest in peace


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Christopher White
Location: Winchester, VA
Email: Searunnercat40  hotmail  .
Date: 1/2/2006
Remote Name: 68.232.87.101

Comments

I was a Senior in High School when the Edmund Fitgerald sank. My dad had sailed as a wheelsman for several years on the ore boats, including the James J. Hill. he left the lakes and went to work in construction because he did not like being away from the family so much. I remember being in my bedroom fairly late that night - after 10pm - hearing on the radio that the Edmund Fitzgerald had possibly sank and that a search was being conducted. Not being familiar with the ship, but knowing my father had sailed on the ore boats in the mid and late 50s, I went into the livingroom where my dad was asleep on the couch, having been watching TV. I woke him, and siad he should go to bed. I then told him that i had just heard on the radio that a great lakes frieghter had sunk in Lake Superior and they were searching for survivors. He asked me - which ship? Did they say the name? I said yes - it was the Edmund Fitzgerald. All the color drained from his face. and I saw his eyes get wattery. He told me he had seen her many imes - that she was the prettiest ship on the lakes and had hoped to sail on her one day if he had stayed on the ore boats. He then asked me if they knew what happened. I said no - there was just a bad storm blowing. He was quiet for a moment and then said - they probbably will not find anyone alive. He then told me to go to bed - and to say a prayer for the men and their families. Now, a little more than 30 years later - my memory of that time with my father is very clear. in the years after that night, he would occasionaly tell me stories of when he worked on the ore boats, and that he was in several bad storms. Especially after resumming shipping late in the year due to a steel strike - in nearly the same place where the "Fitz" went down - 15 ft. seas and 40 knot winds - the wheel hard over and the ship not turning, heading for the rocks. He would always mention that he hoped that the families were being taken care of. He died in a construction accident in 1995, just before his 64th birthday. I too will always remember the crew and families of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It brings to mind the words of the Navy Hymn.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: gaza
Location: adelaide
Email: gaza17  optusnet  ..au
Date: 12/28/2005
Remote Name: 220.238.40.157

Comments

So so sad. Then lest we forget, any loss of a soul, without any reason . Is so so sad too. me thinks r.i.p...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: randy mctigue
Location: walnut grove mn
Email: rdhogg_49
Date: 12/23/2005
Remote Name: 216.16.76.232

Comments

to captain and crew of the fitz God bless you rest in peace form what i have read i believe the ship took a massive blow from a wave on her bow driving it down ward bringing the stern up out of the water with the help of another wave from behind the structure of the ship could not handel such extreme pressure so she broke into sending the bow secton to the lake floor instantly in an up right postion with the stern section out of the water and engines running at full power the torque would cause that section to roll into an inverted postion before it sank untill the day of the comming of our Lord Jesus Christ may GOD bless and keep the families of the edmond fitzgearld


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Patrick Yurek
Location: New York/North Carolina
Email: PYurek  Carolina.rr  .
Date: 12/19/2005
Remote Name: 69.134.117.132

Comments

I'm amazed, and nearly speechless. The tune has always haunted me as it has so many others ... I found this site and I couldn't believe all the people, after so many years, who are seeking answers, or who are intrigued by the (sorry to be repetitive) haunting lyrics of one single tune. I haven't yet found Gordon Lightfoot's connection to this tragedy, but it must be fairly substantial - especially considering that he does the soneg in nearly EVERY concert he plays - even when he was on nationally syndicated TV ... It's incredible how this loss has touched people across the nations ... God Bless those who were lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: leonard penton
Location: valleyfield newfoundland
Email: kodyjo  nf.sympatico  .
Date: 12/10/2005
Remote Name: 142.163.17.42

Comments

a terrible tragidy many hearts left with unanswered questions from my family to there family GOD SPEED


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: leonard g penton
Location: new wes valley nl
Email:
Date: 12/10/2005
Remote Name: 142.163.17.71

Comments

i have seen many stories about the big fitz my thoughts in a storm raging from our dear beloved mother nature nothing survives my most memorable  moment is of one brother of a crew member both made a pack no matter where they are at time of death they would help to bring one another home the guy was on tv crying cause he could not go to the big fitz and get is brother also gordon lightfoot sang a heartful to the families


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Daniel Weimer
Location: New Orleans, LA
Email: danieljames504  yahoo  .
Date: 12/9/2005
Remote Name: 71.32.168.251

Comments

The sinking happen before I was born, but the song brings me closer to knowing that it was a tragedy 30 years ago. The Edmund Fitzgerald was mighty ship, and the men who sailed with her must have been proud to sail with her. Rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Penny
Location: Wpg.Mb.
Email:
Date: 12/3/2005
Remote Name: 207.161.34.219

Comments

I know nothing about sailing but I think that Gordon Lightfoot really captured the feeling of helplessness that must have been felt by everyone.All 29. God bless.You are not forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tim
Location: Monroeville, Ohio
Email:
Date: 11/30/2005
Remote Name: 38.119.116.70

Comments

My heart goes out to the families of the "Fitz". Using the benefit of hindsight, it's only sad that Capt. McSorley didn't put her in the lee of Isle Royale and ride out the storm there. Perhaps he didn't know the storm was intensifying, as I'm sure they didn't have as comprehensive weather forecasts as we do today. So sad. What a tragic waste of life as well as a great vessel. God Bless them all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: thonas banas
Location: roseville
Email: piglet0128  comcast  .
Date: 11/26/2005
Remote Name: 68.41.221.37

Comments

my brother woke me up saying a boat sank in lake superior. the next newspaper i was showing it turned to be true. I was 6 yrs. old. years later a friend and i started studying freighters. I was always interested in the big Fitz. I have read all the articles seen all the videos been to museums listen to capt.erikson, jesse cooper and gordin lightfoot.i guess what im sayin is nobody will ever no the truth except god and the 29 men


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brett Bunge
Location: Avery, CA/USA
Email:
Date: 11/22/2005
Remote Name: 67.182.79.44

Comments

I am 15 years old and recently heard Gordon Lightfoot's song for the first time. I just wanted to say that my heart is with the families of those lost on the Fitzgerald on this, the 30th year anniversary. They will always live in memory, song and story, and our hearts.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jacob Dunn
Location: Texas
Email:
Date: 11/21/2005
Remote Name: 69.30.167.146

Comments

I am 15 and I think that the Wreach of the Edmund Fitzgerald will probly nener be know but the song about it fits it to a T. I think it is Horrible how the men died. We pray for the family members of the Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Doc
Location: Mahwah NJ
Email: docstox  optonline  .
Date: 11/18/2005
Remote Name: 68.197.35.192

Comments

May God bless and bring peace to all the family members and friends of the brave crew of The Edmund Fitzgerald.The 29 brave men will never be forgotten.I know I never will.Peace!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kim White
Location: Lisle Illinois
Email:
Date: 11/18/2005
Remote Name: 67.173.109.138

Comments

We are studying the Great Lakes. My friend's grandpa worked for the company that owned the Fitzgerald. She brought in a newspaper artical and my teacher read it.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ginger
Location: New Hampshire
Email: ginger.zinkowski  ge  .
Date: 11/18/2005
Remote Name: 12.162.61.81

Comments

I was living in St. Croix in the USVI and dating John McCarthy when the Edmund Fitzgerald went down. I still remember vividly when John heard about the sinking on the radio; what a horrible way to learn that your father has likely died. I still can't listen to Gordon Lightfoot's song without it bringing back memories of that sad time.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lindsay
Location: Windsor Ontario
Email: AquaSaber  gmail  .
Date: 11/17/2005
Remote Name: 64.228.72.51

Comments

Its a shame it happened, I learned about this in highschool but it happened before I was born. When I first heard the song it sent shivers up my spine, and I live close to Lake St. Clair, and Lake Erie isn't that far away. I've driven in smaller gales before along Lake Huron, its not fun God bless the crew and captain of the Edmund Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: N M
Location: Petoskey
Email: njchildm  chartermi  .
Date: 11/16/2005
Remote Name: 66.227.135.58

Comments

Driving today with my daughter I looked out at the whitecaps on Little Traverse Bay and said, "This is the time of the year that's most dangerous for ships." Just then, two large freightors came into view......this is not something we see often on part of the lake. It was fascinating to see these huge ships on our little piece of the lake but good to know they were seeking refuge and we prayed for their safety. God bless all you family members and loved ones of the Fitz. NM from Petoskey, Michigan


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike Lucas
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Email:
Date: 11/16/2005
Remote Name: 147.134.177.188

Comments

I was six years old on that fateful Monday night, November 10, 1975. As much as I watched the news, this is the one story I never caught. I have heard pieces of the Gordon Lightfoot song later on--especially when, at one time, Sessions Records advertised a compilation which included the song. Last week, I was listening to COAST-TO-COAST A.M. where George Noury was talking about the thirtieth anniversary of the shipwreck and how he covered it as a young reporter out of Detroit. I could tell in his voice that it was quite personal, before and after he played "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald." I was listening hard to the words one night when I was half-asleep; and afterwards, I thought, "Oh my God! So, this is what the song is about!" That prompted me to go on websites to check the lyrics and the story. I still can't get the story or the song out of my mind. Perhaps it's because I have a cousin in the Navy that I'm feeling it so deeply, as well as the families of the twenty-nine crewmembers who, along with pieces of the ship, are still there in over five hundred feet of water in Lake Superior. I'll continue to hear the song and, now, remember the story. To the families of the crewmembers of the Edmund Fitzgerald, my heart goes out to you; and to crewmembers and the Edmund Fitzgerald, rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Schettenhelm
Location: Livonia, Michigan
Email: fastball034  aol  .
Date: 11/15/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.139

Comments

I am an elementary school teacher and will always work the story of the Fitz into my lessons on or around the 10th of November. What's really fascinating is that for young people the retelling of the legend stops them in their tracks. My students are morbidly silent as Gordon Lightfoot's haunting song fills my classroom. Other teachers stop in the hall and listen in. There's simply no hiding from this tale. I will always share this with kids. It is a part of Michigan history that needs to be retold over and over again. The legend lives on...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jordan Hennessy
Location: London,ont
Email:
Date: 11/15/2005
Remote Name: 198.20.32.254

Comments

God bless you all.Rest in peace.We will always remember you.Thank you for bringing us iron and risking your lives to bring us iron.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jenna Gray
Location: London,Ont
Email:
Date: 11/15/2005
Remote Name: 198.20.32.254

Comments

I hope you will remember the good times with your love ones!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob Lahti
Location: Eau Claire
Email: ibewguy  hotmail  .
Date: 11/15/2005
Remote Name: 66.188.253.188

Comments

It is not possible for me to express what it was that I first felt on that cold November night when I and a friend stopped by his house and his dad told us that a big ship went down in Lake Superior. To me the world stopped and I felt the fear of those onboard, I felt for those who lost loved ones. 30 years later, I still feel connected to the tragedy. I still pray for those who lost and for those who will someday meet the same fate. This past summer, my family took a short weekend trip up to Sault Saint Marie and I had a chance to view the recovered lifeboat from the Fitz. Although a sign near the exibit said dont touch, I did touch and brought some closure to my remote connection. I once again prayed silently for those who died and those who continue on! God Bless the sailors of the Fitz, may they rest in peace!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Suzanne
Location: Franklin, Pa.
Email: suzhicks33  hotmail  .
Date: 11/14/2005
Remote Name: 64.179.96.154

Comments

I was 3 years old and living in Mich. when the ship went down. I do not remember the accident, but I do remember when the song about the Fritzgerald came out. My dad was in the US Cost Guard and we were in the living room when the song came on and we all stood by the radio listening to the song. At the time I wasn't sure why we were listening my mom said that it was something that daddy needed to do. Now as an adult I know, my dad was out on the lake after the ship wreak and it was a very emotional time for all those that were out there trying to save them or find survivors. He is now retired from US Cost Guard but the memory is still there. My heart and prayers are out there for those of you that lost a loved one on the ship that night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Perilous
Location:
Email:
Date: 11/14/2005
Remote Name: 70.36.244.114

Comments

The Edmund Fitzgerald and her stalwart crew will never be forgotten. Peace to all of the friends, families, and loved ones of the lost souls on board on that fateful night, 30 years ago.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: cathie ferris
Location: toronto ontario
Email: ferriscm  hotmail  .
Date: 11/12/2005
Remote Name: 69.197.150.98

Comments

i remember that day very well,i lived in the soo and the storm was so bad that night,all power was gone and there was alot of damage and the next day,i heard how bad the storm was and the sinking of the edmund fitzgerald my heart still, to this day,goes out to the families and friends who lost a loved on that fatal day.That day will always stay in my mind,like it was yesterday.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tracy
Location: wisconsin
Email:
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 24.179.158.190

Comments

i think that the reason the edmund fitzgerald sank was faulty hatch covers and or bulkhead failure.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joshua Doyle
Location: Harrisom TWPMI
Email:
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 68.249.236.167

Comments

The loss of the Fitz was a real tragedy if they would'v waited they woud survived


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Vincent Caligiur
Location: Johnstown, Pa.
Email: coastwatcher  boatnerd  .
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 207.69.139.143

Comments

This might sound strange since its a myth. But according to all the accounts I have read I believe that the Fitz was sunk by the three sister's.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike Cole
Location: Albany, NY
Email: aaret1212  juno  .
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 64.136.27.226

Comments

I believe she was hit with the same "two sisters" that hit the Arthur Andersen 20 miles behind her. The final Coast Guard report was in my opinion the biggest whitewash in shipping history.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Geoffrey Dietrich (tuffy)
Location: Lorain, Ohio
Email: coyotedietrich  aol  .
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 71.68.29.131

Comments

Growing up in Lorain Ohio. I remember! God Bless. I remember the Edmund Fitzgerald!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lawrence
Location: San Diego
Email: lawrenceo  yahoo  .
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 4.177.36.85

Comments

I wept tonight, because I am so proud of you all that remember the beloved crew and families of the FITZ. Her crew worked hard to feed their familes, providing materials for the rest of us so we can feed our families. Earlier today I was angry when a radio talk show host in my Pacific oceanside town complained you can't dance to the G. Lightfoot's ballad. But I know She IS our History; the FITZ is You and Me. Sail on Sailors. God Bless.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: A. Perez
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Email: rspdup  sbcglobal  .
Date: 11/11/2005
Remote Name: 70.226.113.101

Comments

Wow, I stand in awe, just in awe. It's a story I do not know why or try to understand, but a story that plays over and over in my mind. For some reason my sole seems to cling to this tale of reality - the reality of the Edmund. I was only a young child to hear the song yet I have grabbed on to it with both hands. I have dreams I can not explain and yet peace along with heartach. Yet I ramble - I apoligize. My prayers go out to those who have lost loved ones and my wonder to those who still-- well wonder. God speed.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan Ross
Location: Hayward, WI
Email: diverdan@cheqnet.net
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 64.33.183.216

Comments

My heart goes out to the families of the crew as we arrive at the 30 year anniversary. I am thankful the governments have prohibited any further dives on the Fitz and respected the families and victim's. As far as the sinking theory in my mind, I believe a combination of factors including construction and reference to the keel being "Loose" in one of the many books I have purchased and own. This is the most basic fault as far as I am concerned and I feel the company recognized the fault which led them to scrap the sister ship of the Fitz, the A.B. Homer. The Homer had been lengthened to over 800 feet and scrapped a few years later. while it was a relatively new ship. I do not know of any other 800' laker being scrapped. I feel there's something there that owners do not want folks to know.... The other factors I believe that contributed to the wreck was shoaling off Caribou Island which resulted in the railing going down and the vent being lost. After that, I believe the fitz's back was weakened farther than it was from the faulty construction and it was a slow sinking from that point on until she drove deep into the "Three Sisters" and was unable to recover sending her to the bottom. I have friends and a couple of familiy members who sailed the great lakes into the 70's and have long had a reverence for the men and women who work the lakes and seas. God Bless the victims and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ross
Location: Macomb Mi
Email:
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 68.60.132.156

Comments

God bless you all


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jean Laskey
Location: Manistee.Mi.
Email: Djlaskey@1010internet.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 206.114.53.88

Comments

Thirty years ago today my husband, who we weren't married yet, sailed on the ferry across Lake Michigan between Mich. and Wis. and he still does today. He could hear the Arthur Anderson talking on the radio, but not the Fitzgerald in the pilot house. WE have a son who sails on the Great Lakes and we hear stories about how bad the weather can be. From years of hearing about Lake Superior and the sinking of the Fitzgerald I would say she hit bottom and starting to take in water. Maybe if she went another 6 miles off the Shoal she would've made it, no one will never know. God Bless all the families and friends of the 29 crew members that were aboard.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jon VW
Location: Atlanta, GA
Email: jonvw@yahoo.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 68.214.35.7

Comments

30 years ago today . . . . . "When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin' "fellas it's too rough to feed ya" At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in he said "fellas it's been good to know ya" The captain wired in he had water comin' in and the good ship and crew was in peril and later that night when 'is lights went out of sight came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald Rest in peach Captain McSorley and crew - rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nicole Schroeder
Location: Traverse City Mi
Email:
Date:
11/10/2005
Remote Name: 66.227.189.28

Comments

im only 12 and iv been interested in the Edmund Fitzgerald for a long time and i think that she took on water then broke in half because the middle is the weakest part iv read so many books and watched so many interveiws and documenteries i know so much for my age i think its really importamt to remember this tragity it truly was the queen of the ships!!!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jake
Location: Chesterfield, Va
Email: snakedr092662
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 64.12.116.134

Comments

I was thirteen and camping on Lake Erie when I first heard G. Lightfoots song, it sent chills up my spine, and made me cold to the bone. I have been one of those people that just can't let go of the fitz, I can't even imagine what the families of the heroes on that great ship are still going through,my prayers are with them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tom Hedderman
Location: Delmar, New York
Email: jhedderman@nycap.rr.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 72.224.20.207

Comments

It's hard to believe it was 30 years ago that the Edmund Fitzgerald sank. My prayers still go out to the families of the men who went down with her. As to how she sank. I think she was carrying too much weight, riding too low in the water. Maybe hit the shoal. Maybe broke in two or took a big wave and nosed under.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jerry Wallace
Location: Richmond Hill, Ga
Email: jerwall4@hotmail.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 216.166.216.3

Comments

As a child I would listen to the song by Gordon Lightfoot, My eyes have been opened and my heart and prayers goes to the Family and friends of the Crew. God Bless you all


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim S
Location: Cleveland, OH
Email:
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 208.253.199.254

Comments

After 30 years, I was quite surprised to learn that the ship was not bound for Cleveland (as versed in the song), but bound for Detroit. God bless all the crew and families of the lost.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rob Moffat
Location: Athens, OH
Email: moffat@ohio.edu
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 132.235.232.67

Comments

On the 30th Anniversary, our thoughts are on that day and that storm, and the brave crew and great ship are remembered.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Dan
Location: Ekhart, IN
Email: dae018@aol.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.139

Comments

30 years ago today. I was a senior in high school. and somehow the warm weather that we have had in indiana/michigan this week. brings it all rushing back as if it were yesterday.I have told many people that the storm that hit superior that day was as fieice and destructive as any hurricane ever. I cannot ever imagine waves 50 feet high crashing onto the ship and the ship not sinking. I truly believe that the ship bottomed out at 6 fathom shoal and was low in the water bow down and couldn't recover. It is gratifying to know that there are many out there who share this tragic time in history. may we never forget when the gales of november come early. rest in eternal peace crew of the fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: brandon claypoole
Location: pickford, MI
Email: BClaypoolehotma
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 207.75.217.8

Comments

ny grandpa was the last one to have contact with th FITZ i feel so bad


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Greg Leafe
Location: Green Bay WI.
Email: gleafer@yahoo.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 209.62.161.110

Comments

we'll never forget. God bless all those men and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Charles P. Adkins
Location: Lincoln Park, Michigan
Email: baptistBibleman@comcast.net
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 68.40.45.171

Comments

To Those who lost their lives... I leave the Lyrics to an old Gospel Hymn....: God be with you till we meet again By His counsels guide, uphold you, With His sheep securely fold you; God be with you till we meet again. Till we meet, till we meet, Till we meet at Jesus feet; Till we meet, till we meet, God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; Neath His wings protecting hide you; Daily manna still provide you; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; With the oil of joy anoint you; Sacred ministries appoint you; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; When lifes perils thick confound you; Put His arms unfailing round you; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; Of His promises remind you; For lifes upper garner bind you; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; Sicknesses and sorrows taking, Never leaving or forsaking; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; Keep loves banner floating oer you, Strike deaths threatening wave before you; God be with you till we meet again. God be with you till we meet again; Ended when for you earths story, Israels chariot sweep to glory; God be with you till we meet again. Rest in Peace.... -Chuck


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Julie
Location: Lebanon Pa
Email: juliesatrucker@msn.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 209.158.238.230

Comments

Today 30 years ago 29 men went down with the ship. You are all remembered by myself and others. God bless.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sally
Location:
Email:
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 198.20.32.254

Comments

We learned about this ship today and I found it very interesting. I want to find out more!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jim Burke
Location: Bessemer City N.C.
Email: burkejimbo@hotmail.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 204.211.174.68

Comments

I was 17 at the time the "Fitz" sank. I'm from Detroit so I am sure that I remember seeing the Fitz many time as he pulled away from Zug Island when I was a boy. We took a trip To Zug when I was in the Boy Scouts. If he could have made Whitefish there is still no telling if they could have even finished there trip. I will pray for the "29" every day and the families that they left behind.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mary Tolan
Location: Alpena, MI
Email: mtolan@i2k.net
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 66.227.255.226

Comments

Today is the 30th anniversary of the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald. God Bless all who make their living sailing, and bless all 30,000 sailors who have lost their lives in our waters. I come from a family of sailors, My Grandfather was Captain of the Rogers City, my Uncle was Captain of the Buffalo. Many other family members still sail, including my Brother, who at this very moment, is a crew member aboard the Arthur M. Anderson. The winds on Lake Superior today are reported to be identical to those the day the Fitzgerald went down. Please keep all those traveling treacherous waters in your prayers today, and always.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Billie Jo
Location: Northern Lower Michigan
Email: ~~~
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 209.247.222.45

Comments

30 Years ago today 29 men lost their lives doing what they must have loved. 17 years ago today, I have birth to a baby boy, and every year on his birthday, he knows the significance of what today means, not only for himself, but for the 29 souls that still sail on and their famililes who are waiting to sail on Angels wings with them. God Bless you all


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Sheri
Location: Youngstown, Ohio
Email: youn_cxr@
Date:
11/10/2005
Remote Name: 64.18.36.7

Comments

30 years has gone by and still the day it happened is so fresh and clear in my mind. I know that those who lost a friend, father , son or brother that day feels the same way. WE can't and we won,t forget. Thank you again for your web site. It is comforting to know that you are keeping the memory alive.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cheryl Bombard
Location: North Tonawanda, NY
Email: cabb5560@juno.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 129.44.145.219

Comments

Peace to the families of those brave men - know that they are not forgotten. Thanks Gordon Lightfoot for not letting us forget!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chad
Location: Cox
Email: chadcox3@juno.com
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 132.47.128.201

Comments

Growing up Iknew the song, but now I know the story. God bless the many souls that assended to heaven that night. As you rest, rest assured that you will never be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott
Location: Superior, WI
Email: leac0055@umn.edu
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 134.84.5.49

Comments

Being from Superior and from a family that worked in the shipping industry, the events of 11/10/75 forever changed the familys of the Fitz as well as thoughs involved. The 29 men who parished will never be forgotten and on this day, we ask God for the continued peaceful rest,


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Marc
Location: Sault Ste. Marie MI
Email:
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 12.34.41.242

Comments

I've noticed that the majority of people polled believe the Fitz broke in half, causing the sinking. Why is that? I've done some research on the subject, & the positioning & condition of wreckage on the bottom doesn't support that theory. Leaking hatch covers or shoaling (or a combination of the two) are much more plausible theories. That being said, we should always remember this day & keep it fresh in our minds. To some of us, the Fitzgerald sinking is just an interesting subject to study & debate, but we can't forget that this was a real tragedy involving real people. Keeping the sinking fresh in our minds will not only help to preserve the memory of those lost, but will also help us to prevent others from experiencing the same fate.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Patty
Location: Perry, MI
Email: pmfraser@tds.net
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 69.129.80.221

Comments

I can't listen to Gordon's song or read accounts without tearing up. My father was in the Coast Guard during WWII and one of the ships he was assigned to was torpedoed and sunk with 15 lives lost. Luckily he survived and has just now started to talk about it and that was over 60 years ago. The families who were affected by the Fitz's sinking will always remember and pass the story on down to the next generation. I'd like to point out, however, that the majority of the votes indicated the sinking was caused by the ship breaking in two. That may be, but what caused it to come apart? In speaking with those who sail the Great Lakes feel the reason was load shifting in the rough waters was the cause. Those who drive semi's will tell you most times when control is lost is due to the same thing. The ship's captain, officers and crew would have known if there had been potential problems with the construction. To all of you who sail the Lakes, we salute you


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Keith Mayo
Location: gallipolis ohio
Email:
Date: 11/10/2005
Remote Name: 139.177.225.166

Comments

May the 29 souls rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: john
Location: clio
Email: jsks10@comcast.net
Date: 11/9/2005
Remote Name: 68.61.88.54

Comments

Every November I think about the E.F.-the horrible weather they battled that day and realize how brave those seaman were. I love Gordon Lightfoots song and I think it captures your imagination of what might have happened that night! My mother really got me interested in this whole story when I was young and I'll always be fascinated with it. GOD REST THEIR SOULS.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Heneghan
Location: La Fox,IL
Email: johnhens@sbcglobal.net
Date: 11/9/2005
Remote Name: 69.218.187.82

Comments

I was in high school when the Fitz went down. I remember that day like it was yesterday and did not realize the effect it would have on me. 30 years later, I am still haunted by the sinking of the Fitz. Each summer I kayak Lake Superior and the fate of the crew is on my mind. Each time I watch the various shows on the Sinkng of the Fitz, I get a tear in my eye thinking of the terror that crew must have experienced, and hope that death came quickly and painlessly. I don't think we will ever know the true reason for the Fitz's demise. I think it had to hit the 6 fathom shoal as the captain of the Anderson said that it was too close to 6 fathom shoal. In the end it doesn't matter, the 29 will be missed and hopefully will be remebered evey November 10, I know I will.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Louise
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada
Email:
Date: 11/9/2005
Remote Name: 24.109.19.12

Comments

It's stormy out tonight. It's raining and cold and we're having some very strong winds. You feel a chill. They're cancelling events around town on the news. But it's not even close to that night 30 years ago, yet. The storm on Nov. 10, 1975 was one of the worst I've seen. The winds felt like hurricane strength and it was cold and rainy. There were stories on the radio about back windows of cars blowing in and trees blowing down. We live at the north end of the city on some acres, and we lost power about 4 p.m. I went outside to make sure my car windows were closed and it was hard to stand up straight. It was a little scary. We were lucky because we had a woodstove so we could heat something to eat and keep warm. We tried to make a game of it. Close to 6 o'clock I heard a great bang and went to the front windows. The lightening was flashing very regularly and I could see that a huge tree had broken off and landed upright about 6" from my car hood. Many trees blew down that night. The winds were very strong and our house walls were shaking so that our wall clock we was just constantly dinging. It wasn't until the next morning that we heard about the Fitzgerald. Pretty near everyone in town felt just sick about it. It's all anyone talked about. The bays north of here are where we fish and swim and that's where some of the debris was washing up. We all just kept hoping they'd find people in a lifeboat or something. It was awful, but I just think it was the storm that caused the wreck. The waves on Lake Superior can be frightening on any windy day, but with That wind ?


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: David Payette
Location: Center Line Mi.
Email: Emmutt4@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2005
Remote Name: 69.47.227.12

Comments

Every year I say a prayer and remember those who lost their lives. It is comforting to know that after 30 years, this ship is still remembered. God bless all of the families and friends.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: kerri goodell
Location: lincoln park mi
Email: jimnancey313
Date: 11/8/2005
Remote Name: 69.212.51.163

Comments

Since the anniversary of the fitz is this week I wish the family of those lost that tragic night that my prayers are still with them forever when I go up to whitefish point I look out to the lake and of what happend on that 11/10/1975 night changed there families lives forever.The lake is a grave yard of ships that didnt make it to there destinations the fitz will forever sail in spirit with the souls on board that lost their lives and the anderson that had contact with the fitz on the fatefull night when the radar went out and they were their eyes then lost contact with the fitz REST IN PEACE EDMUND FITZGERALD.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Hill
Location: Fairview Park, OH
Email: falcon50flyer@sbcglobal.net
Date: 11/8/2005
Remote Name: 65.43.185.53

Comments

I am thankful that thirty years after this tragedy, it still remains near in our minds and hearts. I hope that it is at least of small comfort to the friends and families of the victims to know that they are not at all forgotten. A number of years ago, I spent a fair ammount of time researching this terrible incident. My personal frame of reference is that of a professional aviator; I have no experience as a seaman. However, I beleieve there are some parallels between the pyschology of vessel commanders, be it an aircraft or a ship. I am convinced that the Fitz encountered some type of phenomenon that caused serious damage to the vessel at or around the time she passed over the shoal region. I believe that McSorley knew he was in trouble, as indicated by his communications with the Arthur Anderson. He did not say so explicitly though, as it can be the nature of vessel commanders not to admit the full scope of their peril. Fear of repercussions from the goverment or the company, damage to one's professional reputation plus an inherent reluctance to admit failure under one's watch can inhibit a captain from full disclosure. I'm not going to speculate what may have happened if he had, because that is a pointless venture, but I do believe that he knew he was in trouble hours before the foundering. This, of course, is only my humble option. I am curious about the hatch clamp postings. Many have stated that it was common practice not to "dog down" all the clamps when carrying taconite. Why this practice with taconite? Just wondering.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Don
Location: Bellbrook, OH
Email: dbsa1@netzero.net
Date: 11/8/2005
Remote Name: 199.218.247.49

Comments

I visited U.P. last year. Whitefish Point is beautiful; its quite a moving experience to stand in Lake Superior & look off toward the Fitz. The Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum is a must. Tour the locks at Sault Ste. Marie and the Valley Camp tour really gives you a feel for life on a freighter. I believe the Fitz went down due to multiple problems. Very good chance she hit a shoal and blew hatch covers too. Haul damage may have also been a factor. Face it, everything that could go wrongdid. If its any consolation to family and friends, I am teaching my Boy Scouts the history of the Fitz. Her name will be known to a new generation.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Reese Berkheij
Location: Brussels, Belgium
Email: killerrabbit1@hotmail.com
Date: 11/8/2005
Remote Name: 83.134.243.74

Comments

I became interested in the Edmund Fitzgerald during a visit to Wisconsin in 1998. Afterwards I found many articles about this great ship and its crew, may God bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: wyatte meier
Location: lodi, WI
Email:
Date: 11/7/2005
Remote Name: 152.163.100.134

Comments

How could the Fitzgerald have hit a shoal, it was on its regular route. My thoughts would be faulty seals on the hatch just couldn't keep out the water because there were 30 foot waves!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: W. Terbell
Location: Glen Ellyn, Il
Email: wt911gofastaol
Date: 11/7/2005
Remote Name: 152.163.100.134

Comments

I was in that same storm in an aircraft. At that time I was a co-pilot on a CV-580 flying for North Central Airlines. Fortunately, the Convair was built like a tank and had a very strong wing and tremendous power (4000 hp each engine)Earlier in the afternoon I got called out on a trip that would operate from ORD-DLH with several stops, typical milk run for North Central which was a regional airline Flying between Rhinelander and Irowwood we got in to a squal line and to get out of the line of severe thunderstorms we turned east and diverted to Green Bay where we spent the night. The next morning while I was getting ready to come down to the lobby, I heard on the TV local news station that the US Coast Guard was searching for the Edmund Fitz. which was presumed lost the night before while heading for the Sioux locks My heart goes out to the families of all those who were lost that night and I am looking forward to being at the memorial service in Whitefish on the 10th.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Gene Hasse
Location: Monroe, WI
Email: hazz36hotmail
Date: 11/6/2005
Remote Name: 69.21.68.164

Comments

God bless the crew and the families of this grand ship. Peace be with you all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Wally Grisold
Location: Toronto, Ont. Canada
Email: wagrisoldyahoo
Date: 11/5/2005
Remote Name: 64.231.54.104

Comments

After reading 2 books (Gales of November) and Dr. Joe MacInnis' book (Firzgerald's Storm). I do believe that the Big Fitz bottomed on 6 Fathom Shoals and possibly submarined and broke in 2 pieces on the way down. A sad ending to a great ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Stan Walsh
Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico
Email:
Date: 11/3/2005
Remote Name: 63.229.166.110

Comments

Tore hole in bottom of hull on shoal (incorrect depth on Coast Guard charts). Cargo hold began to fill with water (undetectable). Cargo/water shift to fore section causing the bow to stuff on downside of wave. Boat did not come apart on surface proven by the close proximity of the two main parts of the hull on the floor of the lake.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Doug
Location: Hamilton Ont. Canada
Email: dprudercogeco
Date: 11/3/2005
Remote Name: 24.36.9.193

Comments

I was working on the lakes at the time . There is no doubt that it was a bad night as we were on lake erie that night it was one of the worst storms I had seen on that lake. Also at the time it was common practice at the time to NOT! put allof the hatch clamps on when you were hauling iron ore. We would only put every other clamp or put one and miss two but everybody did it. If you watch Discovery channel when they show the FITZ you will see that the clamps are NOT all secured as they should have been done.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Richard Mester
Location: Ballwin, MO
Email: rmesterswbell
Date: 11/2/2005
Remote Name: 65.69.46.136

Comments

This is why proper respect for the sea is stressed. Accident or otherwise, few things in nature are as powerful as the strength of the sea. May the crew of the "Fitz" rest in peace, and long be remembered. God bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: matt
Location: Lima,OH
Email: matt_4800hotmail
Date: 11/1/2005
Remote Name: 65.17.134.138

Comments

I think in all my reading I come up with all four items in your poll happened during that fateful day. May they rest in peace for the rest of eternity.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: sheila
Location: peoria
Email: sja242005yahoo
Date: 10/30/2005
Remote Name: 68.104.250.124

Comments

god bless


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lucas Machon
Location: Nekoosa, WI
Email: lkmachonyahoo
Date: 10/29/2005
Remote Name: 216.105.208.1

Comments

I believe she was damaged at the Six Fathom Shoal. This in turn caused the ship to ride lower and lower in the water until the seas became too much for her, and the hatches gave way, sinking the ship too fast for a distress call. God bless the 29 crewman. May they rest in peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Corinne
Location: Welland Ontario
Email:
Date: 10/27/2005
Remote Name: 69.156.178.37

Comments

I have been fascinated by the sinking of the Edmund Fitzgerald for many years and although I have an opinion about why she sank I do not think that this is as important as the fact that twenty nine ment lost their lives. I do, however, think that personal attacks on the character of any of the crew, in particular the negativity towards Captain McSorley that I have seen and read during my research of the sinking of the "Fitz" demeans not only him but the men who sailed with him. If he was supposedly such a bad person, why did John McCarthy want to finish his career with Captain McSorley? Every one of those men deserve to be remembered with kindness and dignity, and not to have their memories sullied with accusations that have no real bearing on the tragedy. The circumstances surrounding the sinking of the Fitzgerald should not be blamed on the crew, or the Captian but rather on the conditions they were sailing under and the series of unfortunate circumstances that doomed them from the moment the water started to enter into her hull.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bobby Batyko
Location: Medina
Email: rbatykozoominternet
Date: 10/26/2005
Remote Name: 156.63.190.132

Comments

I have always enjoyed Gordon Lightfoots song, but at the same time, it is terrifing to place yourself in the place of those unfortunate souls. The stoms must have been of unbleivable size. It is unthinkable. If any of you out there are related to those men, my heart bleeds for you. God help those navigating our see right now, and god bless America, as well as our world.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jason Kumpula
Location: Boulder Jct. WI
Email: rudd422000yahoo
Date: 10/24/2005
Remote Name: 65.73.209.132

Comments

I have heard many reasons why and the read as many documents as I could find theres a few theories I would agree with, and then there are some I dont agree with. First things first when you have wet cargo, or if its not, it wont shift. The way she went down probably was bow first, how? Do to hitting something if it were a shoal or something else she would have been low in the water more than usual. So if any waves that were 30 feet or higher would have put here under. When she went under the bow would have hit bottom before the rest would have. The middle where she had damage would have folded under. As the stern went under the propeller would have still been rotating thus causing it to flip over before it hit bottom. The only way will know is if any had survived. The mystery will grow and so will the arguments.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Ron Pyette
Location: Sault Ontario
Email: rnpnetscape
Date: 10/23/2005
Remote Name: 209.47.31.6

Comments

I was a 26 year old Steelworker in 1975. Of course the Fitz passed through the Soo Locks hundreds of times. Through the safety of my apartment window my wife and I watched as the wind sent debris flying in all directions. I remember telling my wife that it would be terrible to be out on Lake Superior tonight. My brother, and many of my uncles and cousins from Manitoulin Island had been sailors. I will always hold a special place in my heart for the families and friends of those lost on the Edmund Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: James Stemwedel
Location: Houston, Texas
Email: jastemwedelyahoo
Date: 10/23/2005
Remote Name: 65.126.113.66

Comments

I was eight years old in 1975 and very clearly remember the morning of November 10th that year. My dad told me that morning that he had had a strange dream that he was standing on the shore of Lake Superior at night during a huge storm and thinking he wouldn't want to be out there. We lived in St. Paul, Mn at the time, and he had the dream without any knowledge of the storm or the sinking. I was so fascinated by the the lake freighters and the Great Lakes that I decided to become a ship's officer, graduating from the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in 1989. I went on to sail for Oglebay Norton (Courtney Burton, Buckeye), Great Lakes Fleet (Arthur M. Anderson and others), and briefly for Interlake. Loved it out there but now work for American Bureau of Shipping on the Gulf of Mexico. If its the last thing I do I'm going to sail the lakes again one day...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: F. V. Frazier, Mar.
Location: District of Columbia
Email: vincenzo13verizon
Date: 10/17/2005
Remote Name: 70.108.123.45

Comments

Since the opening of January of 1976, I commenced gathering data to perform a personal investigation. When exercising so, I vividly paid close attention to the report pertaining to the Big Fitz having water leakage through its hatch covers. In laymens terms, those hatch covers weigh tons and there simply isn't any way a cup or a bottle of water would and/or could fit through those hatches regardless of the strength of the November Witch, which is an extremely strong gale. The report of breaking in two makes sense to a point however, we must remember and add the figures, by any chance the Big Fitz encountered the 3 sisters and the possibility is great that she did, that would more so give her an angle of diving from the bow. The report of cargo shifting obtains the odds from 6 million to none. Bare in mind, this is an ore freighter and ore slowly moves however, not enough to sink that of a ship built as well as the Edmund Fitzgerald. Once the light turns to its color the hold is full to its content and must then be properly clampted and tightly screwed in. Having stated the above, my personal report and belief is that of the following: the Big Fitz encountered high seas and rocked hard as she sailed her voyage until she encountered the 3 sisters which struck her from the bow only rocking her deeper directly onto the shoal approximately 100 feet on which she then bottomed out. The Big Fitz all and all sank from the bow. I so appreciate the Memory of the 29 Crew Hands of the Edmund Fitgerald held at Whitefish Point. I attended a memory at Whitefish Point and was moved titanically. It is without debate each of those 29 Hands were true, professional and cockpit qualified Sailors and I rank them as Sailors Of The Great Lakes, of all time. My deep condolences go out to each of the 29 hand's families and may the Lord bless and help you all. For those families as well, please remember your loved ones are presently with the Lord and you all are in my prayers.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Marsha MacLellan Klecha
Location: Eastpointe, Michigan
Email: mkmaclellan
Date: 10/13/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.139

Comments

I am the neice of Gordon MacLellan who lost his life on the Edmund Fitzgerald.I believe he was 30 yrs. old. My grandfather Donald MacLellan also sailed the Great Lakes before retiring to Clearwater , Florida. I have read all of the comments and the only ones who know how she went down are the men who are still living on this huge ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: wf
Location: mi
Email:
Date: 10/12/2005
Remote Name: 63.164.108.21

Comments

I sailed for 25 years on the lakes, and retired from Oglebay Norton, who operated the Fitz. My opinion is she grounded on the shoals. I will not believe any other explanation.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: KPB
Location: Illions
Email:
Date: 10/7/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.139

Comments

I had a really sad felling in that tragic loss of 29 men.But the song is really good


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Colleen
Location: Rochester, MN
Email: sikelccharter
Date: 10/4/2005
Remote Name: 71.10.87.76

Comments

For the past couple of years I've felt some kind of special connection to the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Every time I hear the song it I feel shivers all over then I proceed to breakdown in tears. I think about the crew and known circumstances at least twice a week. Without knowing prior to my arrival I stayed a night in the Edmund Fitzgerald room at a motel in northern MN. I just want to wish the surviving relatives the best in life.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Terrance Moore
Location: Wausau, WI
Email: patriot11789hotmail
Date: 10/4/2005
Remote Name: 66.190.0.83

Comments

The Loss of the Edmund fitzgerald was caused by a number of the voting choices. The official Coast Guard report states that after the hatches gave way, the iron ore taconite pellets absorbed water entering the cargo hold. This raised the waterline on the fitzgeralds hull. The extra weight and the fact that the ship was riding low in the water, leaves one of two possibilites; one, she hits six fathom shoals due to her riding lower, or two, she was hit with the three sisters inevitably causing her stern half to break from keel on up; allowing her to sink as fast as she did.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bob-RJ Burkhart
Location: Lenexa, KS
Email: burkhartmnusmac
Date: 10/2/2005
Remote Name: 65.30.117.192

Comments

Having conned the USS Cimarron (AO-22) a 25,000 Ton Fleet Oiler thru the outer fringes of a Western Pacific typhoon with 70-foot seas breaking over our bow, I was grateful for her builders' CARING craftsmanship and our US Navy crew's COMPETENCY in ballasting correctly to AVOID "hog & sag" stresses ... I suspect CAREless bulk cargo loading & unloading practices contributed to cumulative stuctural hatch failures & hull fatigue that resulted in this ABUSED ship's sinking under abnormal (high-stress) storm conditions ... Much like other MASS casulty incidents (MCI) since the "Fitz" sank, our after-action reports (AAR) tend to blame accident victims rather than analyzing related or contributing human factors ... like PRIOR operationg errors and hull upkeep omissions! BTW - CIM (AO-22) outlasted her sister ships (30 years vs 15 years) due to her capable crew's cumulative attention to critical details ...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nick Marco
Location: Sandwich,IL
Email:
Date:
9/21/2005
Remote Name: 207.69.139.142

Comments

I think they should make a new Edmound Fitzgerald and in gold letters put the names of each of the 29 crewmen.I am 11 years old and I wish I could crack the case.I pray for the crew and famlies. I am sad for the famlies but the men did not die in vain.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John E Broussard
Location: Lake Charles, LA
Email: jebroussardcox-internet
Date: 9/18/2005
Remote Name: 68.229.148.154

Comments

Forget the blame game, I think the ship broke in 2. It doesn/t matter, and leave the site alone, it is a gravesite. Only go there if it is approved by all of the families of the the fallen sailors. Honor is the highest of all human attributes. God Bless the families of the 29 because they must bear the life of emptiness, God Bless those who perished. 12 years of Catholic School tells me to chastise all involved in the blame game and honor all in the Blessing and Honor.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Stephen Rottiers
Location: Howell,MI
Email:
Date: 9/13/2005
Remote Name: 68.41.17.216

Comments

What Happend was that that the edmund fitzgearld left superior with broken hatch clamps and a hatch crack. The storm was to rough and the ship broke in to on the lake. I will rember the great ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Carol
Location: Marquette, Mi.
Email:
Date: 9/13/2005
Remote Name: 24.177.168.8

Comments

Thoughts of the loss of the EDMUND FITZGERALD... My thoughts of the ship going down on Nov.10, 1975. and the 29 men that had loss their live's during it. They will be sadly missed by all. May God Bliss them all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Deb (Champeau) Gomez-Felder
Location: Nashotah, WI
Email: gomezfelder
Date: 9/13/2005
Remote Name: 64.12.116.134

Comments

My thought and feelings are so different from thrity years ago when my father who went down on the "Fitz". I have always wanted my fathers remains brought up due to the invastion of his burial site, but over the years felt this was out of my control. Now knowing that swimers and dives are going on continually through the years make putting closure on this impossible for me. My father deserved so much more than this! God rest there souls and always know dad, that I miss you and love you everyday like it was yesterday! I live with the fact that I am powerless in your burial rites, but will never give up hope in bringing you home to your grave where no one can rob or touch any part of you! I know your soul is in heaven. Luv, Your daughter, Debby


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: wes wegner
Location: muskegon mi
Email: wdrwegc.faith
Date: 9/10/2005
Remote Name: 170.232.2.203

Comments

I lived in Marquette Mi at the time. My house was on a ridgeline about 2 miles in from the lake with a panoramic view, which that day struck fear into my heart as I could see the huge waves and whitecaps even from that distance. The wind was so strong it drove water thru the basement walls. I feared for the lives of whoever might be out on the lake that day.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Eugene
Location: Oakville Ontario
Email: vincentvega676yahoo
Date: 9/7/2005
Remote Name: 209.29.196.10

Comments

I was at Massey hall for a Gordon Lightfoot Concert in Toronto when it was the 25th anniversary of the sinking of the Fitz. He sang the song halfway through the night and cannot begin to explain the errieness of the atmosphere. It was surreal and hair raising. The version was the best I have ever heard. I have read many books on the subject and give cause to many of the theories. I give credence to the theory of hitting the shoal and ripping her open. I laso believe the hatches were a secondary cause to the wreck. There were probably many reasons why Fitz sank. The one thing for sure is she is on the bottom of Superior, holding the souls of her crew. I have heard the storms of the saltwater oceans are full of swells and rough water, but the storms that brew on Superior and Erie are nothing to be taken lightly. They arise violently and quickly and unleash tremendous energy. Waves are to be feared, not swells. I almost lost my life in Notawassaga Bay in April one year when a storm came out of no where and swamped my boat 1/4 mile from shore. Flat water to 8 foot waves in under 5 minutes. My mustang floation suit saved me from the icy water. The great lakes are to be respected and feared. We must not ask why or how, but realize the Lake took Fitz and we should remember and pray for the men who worked her decks and supported their families. May God keep their souls in peace to one day be reunited with all their loved ones. God bless the departed souls and protect their families left here with us. For every time we speak of this tragedy they are kept alive in our thoughts and spirits.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Don Montgomery
Location: Waverly, NY
Email: dmontgomerystny.rr
Date: 9/6/2005
Remote Name: 69.204.193.39

Comments

I lived in Ashland, Wisconsin when the Fitzgerald went down. We used to see her in Superior on the way to Diluth. They had a memorial service in Ashland for the crew, tossing a wreath in Lake Superior. It's difficult listening to the Gorden Lightfoot song. God bless the crew and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Shaun Appleby
Location: NSw, Australia
Email: shaunuptheblue
Date: 8/25/2005
Remote Name: 211.31.78.221

Comments

I was hitch-hiking through Hiawatha National Park the night the Edmund Fitzgerald sank. It was a cold and lonely night and the road closed by snow; I thought I was going to freeze to death in the storm. That night had a particularly eerie quality and I can remember feeling like I was the only one around for miles and miles. I can remember at some point thinking to myself "Heaven help a sailor out on a night like this". The next day I read in the paper that the Edmund Fitzgerald had gone down in Whitefish Bay. I have always felt a strange feeling of sadness and longing when I hear the song; it has never failed to affect me. I often think of those who died then out there in wild wind and darkest night.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lou
Location: Revere, MA
Email: bruins5768aol
Date: 8/19/2005
Remote Name: 68.163.135.167

Comments

There aren't really a lot of concrete facts, so a lot of what we think is pure conjecture...but I think what's there points to the boat grounding at some point, likely at the Six Fathom Shoals. Captain Cooper on the Anderson had the Fitz on radar and in his sight, in his opinion they were too close to the shoals. The two pumps they had going couldn't take straighten out the list, water must have been coming in through a hole in the bottom. You figure the pumps could have taken care of any water that got in through loose hatches, if you're to believe the "faulty latch" theory".


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Amanda Hartzell
Location: Constantine,MI
Email:
Date: 8/15/2005
Remote Name: 4.229.235.141

Comments

I would just like to say I'm sorry to all the family members of the crew.I'm 13 years old and I love shipwrecks.I started to feel sad about people's loss of a loved one.I always think about the ship,the crew,the captain,and the families.I have read many books to learn all I can about the crew and ship to keep it alive.Even though the ship sank and crew died it always will live on in people's heart.I will contine my reading untill I understand why it sank.I say rest in peace to the crew. The ship and the crew will live through me so as the song goes the legend lives on.I hope people will understand the meaning of the ship and its loyal crew. I once again say sorry to the families of the crew.And Rest In Peace To The Crew.And Rest In Peace Edmund Fitzgerald.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: KEITH BAKER
Location: M/V ROGER BLOUGH
Email:
Date: 8/12/2005
Remote Name: 152.163.100.134

Comments

The hatch cover theroy is garbage I sail the lakes and i deal whith the hatches everyday there basicly a 7 to 21 ton steel slab 7 being on ship's like the Arthur M. Anderson 21 on ship's like the Roger Blough and all of the thousand footers. Thier right flush on the under side of the hatch against the inside of the hatch comming there are girders or stiffeners welded on the under side of each hatch cover that keep's the cover from sliding side to side and front to back. With out the use of the hatch crane there not going any where.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Louise
Location: Ontario Canada
Email:
Date: 8/8/2005
Remote Name: 216.211.16.39

Comments

I have lived on the north shore of Lake Superior all my life and understand how "unkind" this lake can be in turbulent weather. I have followed with great interest the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. I finally got to see the bell at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum a couple years ago and would like to commend them on being able to retrieve it and replace it with another with the crew's names on it. I am sure it meant a lot to the family members who lost their loved ones that night. God Bless the men who lost their lives on the Fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joe Krall
Location: Bay Village, Ohio
Email: shadow7118aol
Date: 7/28/2005
Remote Name: 63.161.86.254

Comments

On Monday, July 18th 2005 my wife and I were passing the Sandusky Coal dock in our dingy and passed no less than the Arthur M Anderson as it was pulling away from the coal dock. It gave me a chill to realize it was the smaller of 2 vessels that was in tandem with the larger Fitz. Just seeing the Arthur M Anderson, made me think of the loss of the crew of the Edmund Fitzgerald. It's hard to fathom that a ship that large could be lost. I can't imagine the pounding they took that night. The lyrics from the Gordon Lightfoot song The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald flashed though my mind.. the church bell chimed 'til it rang 29 times for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald"


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Larry
Location: gastonia NC
Email: darthernusyahoo
Date: 7/27/2005
Remote Name: 66.20.165.198

Comments

After all these years have past I think it becomes less important as to what caused the Big Fitz to sink. One fact will always remain a constant whether the Fitz broke up capsized or bottomed out on the shoals. 29 good men doing thier job to support thier families died. Hopefully they will never be forgotten nor the haunting legacy of the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bernie Godde
Location: palm harbor fla
Email: bgoddeverizon
Date: 7/26/2005
Remote Name: 65.33.199.162

Comments

If as the Coast Guard had said that it was a faulty hatch cover that caused the sinking how come the ships now sailing don't have warning lights of a open not secured hatch cover.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: kerri goodell
Location: lincoln park mi
Email: jimnancy313's
Date: 7/26/2005
Remote Name: 68.73.15.117

Comments

I think it was a the most tragic then the titanic.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: derek addams
Location: providence rhode Island
Email: rustyboardhotmail
Date: 7/25/2005
Remote Name: 131.109.225.10

Comments

obviously the anderson's skipper is correct with his observation of the demise of the "Fitz"....she was sinking from the time she bottomed on the shoal...Mcsorley did not want to admit the miscalculation....or was not aware of the miscalculation because of the weather.... in any event to suggest loose hatch covers as the cause is loonacy!That ship was sinking as it crossed the shoal and was buried by the wave that nearly sunk the Anderson! With water in the cargo hole shifting to the sturn,any drive up or between wave crests would have driven the sturn to the bottom twisting and or burying the bridge as the wave began to throw and curl over the bridge...giving no time to send a mayday! Just like Captain Cooper said...sudden and catastrophic!The coast guard was wrong on this one!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Susan
Location: Wyandotte, MI
Email:
Date: 7/25/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.139

Comments

Just getting back from vacationing in the area where the Fitz went down made me think again of how tragic this was. While on vacation we were on a boat anchored in Whitefish Bay and swam in the beautiful clear water. I couldn't help but think of the Fitzgerald only about 30 miles away. May God bless these men and their families forever.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Scott C. Carpenter
Location: Ashtabula OH
Email: notrespassing13yahoo
Date: 7/5/2005
Remote Name: 67.140.76.2

Comments

It was a terrible loss that night. I feel great sorro for those familes that lost their loved ones.They should not have taken on the rough waters before them they caused a tragic lose.Those men will always live in their grave yard at the bottom of the lake with their brave sols.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Glen Bearman
Location: New Zealand
Email: gfzxtra.co.nz
Date: 7/5/2005
Remote Name: 146.171.254.66

Comments

I have allways enjoyed since a child the Gordon Lightfoot song and spent most of my life beleiving the song was of an older wreck, possibly early 1900's. Thanks to the internet I learnt that she was lost when I was 7 years old. Just last weekend at a party for my birthday I played the song and told the story of the Edmond Fitzgerald....all be it a little drunk. My best wishes to the families that lost there loved ones in 1975. Glen New Zealand


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Payne
Location: New Zealand
Email: torqueingheadsclear.nz
Date: 7/5/2005
Remote Name: 218.101.84.72

Comments

That magnificent song by Gordon Lightfoot became my favourite when I first heard it on a crackly radio in the tiny village of Utiku New Zealand in the 70s and at the time I was unaware it was a true story. My heart goes out to the families of those brave men.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Email: chrisdube_1yahoo
Date: 7/4/2005
Remote Name: 69.192.119.24

Comments

I believe the wreck site should be left undisturbed.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: capt.joe
Location: for a little while geneva
Email: moss_442001yahoo
Date: 7/4/2005
Remote Name: 71.29.114.81

Comments

im sorry about the fitz but we cant take her and her crew back but i know she did not brake up on the sureface her hatches wer leakin pushin her down in the water there for loseing balast and diving into a large wave that she should have been able to handle but only those brave men could know i command an ore boat self there big but not unsinkable theres been a lot of time i dint know if i would make it back but the reserve always brings me and my men backbut if the time would come when i and my men with my ship should go we would be just a few of the good men who went down on the lakes but if and when that time comes we will not go down easy we will go threw hell if we have to but will go down fighting like the big fitz and her men R.I.P mighty fitz and her 29 men capt.joe and the men of the ss.reserve


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brad Bengtson
Location: St. Cloud Mn.
Email: bab481yahoo
Date: 6/29/2005
Remote Name: 64.83.197.253

Comments

After alot of reseach and viewing the documtries I believe a roge wave crashed over the bow with hatch covers leaking and added weight the bow never recovered and went straight to the bottom driven by the the engines twisting the ship in half and causing and causing the position of the wreck. I have the tv doctumentry of the Edmund Fitzgerld and many books of wrecks on the great lakes. Plus the newspaper of a rich enturper who revisited the wreck in 2000 wanting to bring up artifacts from the wreck. Which brought an public out cry to leave the ship alone as it is a grave yard for 29 brave souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: capt.joe
Location: geneva
Email: moss_442001yahoo
Date: 6/28/2005
Remote Name: 67.140.78.20

Comments

i understand how it feels to lose a loved 1 a ship as gooda built as the big fitz should have not have sunk but i can say this the fitz fought till the last and those guyz went through hell we know but they are still heroes in my eyes and every bodys eyes but it was not just the storms fault it was also the hatch covers and gratelakes ship company knows that i know that bein a fellow mariner my self


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tim simon
Location: dewitt,mi
Email: tsimonstfrancis.ws
Date: 6/28/2005
Remote Name: 67.162.218.175

Comments

I was about 7 yrs old when i saw the big fitz for the first time going through the locks and my dad took a pic of it with it behind me when it was coming down bound frm lake superior. that was in the the early summer in 75. till this day i cant find that pic and it strange that that late fall she went down. it was a sad day as a young child i didnt think much of it until i got older. Yes the big fitz was a great loss but will always be remembered in michigan and abroud....


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Antonietta
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Email:
Date: 6/23/2005
Remote Name: 64.231.197.105

Comments

Everytime I hear the song "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" I can't help but cry and mourn these brave men. My heart goes out to the Captain, his men and their families. May God Bless them all.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Tracey Turk
Location: Spooner Wisconsin
Email: MobileAxxessaol
Date: 6/20/2005
Remote Name: 207.200.116.74

Comments

I was born in 1976. When I first heard the song by Gordon Lightfoot, I was shocked. It seemed so real and I then found out about the ship and I really feel deep-hearted for the families and their losses. You are all in my prayers. I went to the 25th Memorial and I intend on going this year to the 30th.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Joann Strickland
Location: Nova Scotia
Email: jstricklandns.sympatico
Date: 6/19/2005
Remote Name: 156.34.48.204

Comments

Up to this point, I thought that this ship had met with peril many years earlier than it actually had. I have always admired the song sung by Gordon Lightfoot. It gives me a feeling of emptyness and very much compassion for the family and friends of the men who lost their lives aboard the Fitzgerald. I cannot comment on why, I guess only the crew and the good Lord would know exactly why she sank and took so many lives with her. I would however like to pass on my condolences to anyone surviving of family or generations since... there's not really much more to say. God be with them and you.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Chris
Location: Texas
Email: callistodawngrandecom
Date: 6/11/2005
Remote Name: 216.188.238.147

Comments

Something which has always interested me is just exactly how long it took the vessel to sink. I have read that it must have happened very quickly or else there would have been attempts to send a distress signal indicating that the ship was in immenent danger of sinking. (Unless the radio equipment was somehow damaged.) This also brings up a more disturbing question--did the men on the ship die quickly or were some of them trapped in air pockets in the ship, as happened to some US soldiers I read about who were trapped on a sunken destroyer in the Pacific in WW2. I hope someday to be able to visit the area where the Fitzgerald went down and pay my respects...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: LT len oconnell
Location: hudson bay sask
Email: lennynzhotmail
Date: 6/9/2005
Remote Name: 64.201.200.31

Comments

i can only imagine what was running through thier minds as the ship sank i was in the navy for a few years and experienced some of the same weather...and i no i was scared god bless the crew of the edmund fitzgerald every man ....


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Les S.
Location: Emmaus, PA.
Email: N/A
Date: 6/6/2005
Remote Name: 209.92.42.86

Comments

After seeing several shows about this tragedy, and listening to what Captain Bernie Cooper of the Arthur Anderson said, I believe as Cooper did, that the Fitzgerald scraped the bottom at Six Fathom Shoals and was sinking ever since that time. They reported a list shortly after they passed the shoals, and took on water in the increasingly bad seas-the water was coming in faster than they could pump it out. And they probably were pounded by one or more gigantic waves, and it just sent her to the bottom. Captain Cooper had said that he thinks the end for her "was sudden and catastrophic"-I agree.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John Kimmes
Location: Superior, WI
Email: j_kimmesyahoo
Date: 6/4/2005
Remote Name: 4.254.100.72

Comments

I don't know that we'll ever know for sure how the Ole Fitz sank, thus the mystery will live on forever and the crew will remain in our hearts.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Michael Panama
Location: Buchanan M.I.
Email: mapanamayahoo
Date: 6/1/2005
Remote Name: 24.7.225.44

Comments

I love the EDMUND FITZGERALD! :-) I love the song... but it makes me cry! :-(


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brian L. Cavanaugh Jr.
Location: Westerly, R.I.
Email: bcavanaugh4cox
Date: 5/27/2005
Remote Name: 68.9.205.83

Comments

i want to express my sympothy to the families of those who lost their lives aboard the Edmund Fitzgerald. it was a sad day. i was a small child when that happened. as an adult now i have watched documentaries about the unfortunate mishap and the loss of life. only GOD knows what really happened that night, and why. some have theories. of all of the sinking of ships and boats, three will always be a part of my memory. for there are three reasons why. 1) there is a song which was written and sang by Gordon Lightfoot about the Edmund Fitzgerald and when i close my eyes and listen to the song i can see in my mind and feel in my heart this part of maritime history. 2) there was a movie about the titanic. and 3) there was a movie about the Andrea Gail. all sad stories. so you see that the Edmund Fitzgerald will always live on as long as the song is played. the song is played in my heart so therefore it will always live on with me. these are just my thoughts with no disrespect to anyone intended. may GOD comfort all those who were effected by this tragedy.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lindsay
Location: Highland Mi
Email:
Date: 5/26/2005
Remote Name: 69.242.211.171

Comments

I am from Michigan. The edmund fitzgerald was a great history lesson i learned. I did a project in school on the fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Britt Moore
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Email: brittamooresbcglobal
Date: 5/25/2005
Remote Name: 69.214.138.177

Comments

I graduated high school in"75. Now I am an actor/singer in Cleveland. I play guitar and sing the song about the Fitz. It took six months before I could do it without choking up. I can almost see it in my head. It consumes me.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Clayton Jobe
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Email: c_jobehotmail
Date: 5/25/2005
Remote Name: 134.190.95.118

Comments

It's hard to believe an experienced Captain like McSorley would not have made dam sure the hatches were dogged down properly especially with advanced notice of a storm. He must have known they has weaknesses. I don't know what his visability was , but he and the crew knew Fitz was listing from flooding. You'd think the crew would somehow check the hatches, seems kinda obvious. I say the Fitz suffered a stress fracture to the hull. Why didn't McSorley communicate his plan for a listing, flooding ship? Gordon Lightfoot is awsome.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike Thornton
Location: Owosso Mi
Email:
Date:
5/21/2005
Remote Name: 69.41.3.223

Comments

On Labor Day September 1975 I saw the Edmund Fitzgerald pass through thr Soo Locks. I remember the Fitzgerald due to the fact that it was dowm bound with a load of iron ore. the men on the fitzgerald were waving at us and was throwing iron ore pellets on the ground and they rolled under the fence. we gathered they up and I put the pellert in a jar which I still have today. When I hear the news about the sinking I felt bad for the Ship, Crew, and the crews family. still today I feel I have a part of the ship with me in the pellets I have, and I will never forget the mighty Edmund Fitzgerald. Thank you for allowing me to tellmy story. Mike Thornton


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Wilfred Sauer
Location: Fergus falls, MN
Email: sau35476atcpinternet
Date: 5/16/2005
Remote Name: 216.251.181.193

Comments

I think the Fitz hit the Caribou Island shoals, which damaged the hull, but the pumps kept her above the water. When the 3 giant waves hit her though, her pumps could not withstand the heavy weight of the massive waves.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jack Spencer
Location: Henry TN
Email: jack31961yahoo
Date: 5/13/2005
Remote Name: 12.153.207.208

Comments

I first heard the Gordon Lightfoot song almost 30 years ago. Has there ever been a song more haunting? It got me intrested in the ship and what happend. Im convinced it was bacause the hatchs weren't screwed down. I have examined every possable scenerio, and this has to be it. I still mourn for the crew, and their familes. The maritime profession is a risky one indeed.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mitch gregory
Location: little Falls MN
Email:
Date: 5/11/2005
Remote Name: 68.112.153.199

Comments

well i cant believe it went down and when it hit the shoal i guess that was it fare well to the saylors and evryone misses them atleast there family got to ring the bell of the fits and ya godbless everone on the ship and there familys...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Elliott Pearson
Location: Shelby TWP, Michigan
Email: egpearsoncomcast
Date: 5/6/2005
Remote Name: 68.61.35.187

Comments

The story is so sad, but so true. I got to visit the place where the Edmund Fitzgerald sunk. There is nothing left but sad memories.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: tom baisley
Location: afton, ny
Email: tombaisleyyahoo
Date: 5/6/2005
Remote Name: 206.28.132.140

Comments

the photo in the link below is very forboading of ,the accident reports findings of inadequate hatch cover clamps. http://www.mhsd.org/fleet/O/On-Columbia/fitz/fitz-billw%20collection.jpg


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Matthew Hamer
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Email: hamernucleus
Date: 5/6/2005
Remote Name: 209.5.169.46

Comments

I was living in Thunder Bay, Ontario, on November 10, 1975. Though some 30 years have passed, I still remember the storm - the waves were washing over the breakwater in Thunder Bay harbour, which was quite unheard of. I can remember listening to the CBC News - my father tuned into it faithfully - and after the 'dit-dit-dit' signal that CBC used in those days - hearing the news that the Fitz had been lost on Lake Superior - it haunts me to this day, as does Lake Superior. God bless Captain McSorley and the men of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Matthew Hamer


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: dalebob
Location: michigan
Email:
Date: 5/4/2005
Remote Name: 67.38.154.46

Comments

that is sad that the Edund Fitzgerald sank :(


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: maureen
Location:
Email:
Date: 5/4/2005
Remote Name: 198.234.223.250

Comments

The edmund fitsgerald filled up with water and sunk to the bottom of the ocean at a rapid speed because of the weight.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: justin
Location: gilmer texas
Email: jschwieger992
Date: 5/1/2005
Remote Name: 24.155.175.231

Comments

I think they suffered a terible loss that night my heart and prayers go to the family of the 29 crew members.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Smith
Location: Alberta Canada
Email: robnsabshaw
Date: 4/30/2005
Remote Name: 68.148.73.228

Comments

You actually think the Fitzgerald should be raised? What are you thinking.I am a qualified diver and I think the fitzgerald should remain on the bottom where it rests. I was 9 years old when it sank. Why bother the dead? I am in the canadian military and every year on my birthday I salute the 29 souls lost at sea. Its like desecrating a tomb. Leave her where she lies and let the souls of the men aboard rest in peace..Thats the way it should be....Rob Smith...


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Andrew J. Ponshock
Location: Antigo Wisconsin
Email: citationjet2001hotmail
Date: 4/26/2005
Remote Name: 205.213.92.64

Comments

Every year i drive up to bayfield wisconsin and visit the historical marks of the fitzgerald and i pray for all who have died. and when i heard the song "wreck of the edmund fitzgerald" it sends a tingling feeling up my back and i am so interested in how one minute the lake is so calm and in minutes can tower 40+ waves!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cammy (Skytta) Patterson
Location: Dallas, Tx
Email:
Date: 4/22/2005
Remote Name: 68.94.239.180

Comments

My grandfathr, Arvo Skytta, was the first mate on a ship that came in around the same time as the EF. I loosly remeber him telling the story about talking to someone from the EF but my dad, knows the story better. If anyone is truely intersted in hearing my dad tell of his FATHERS account, please let me know. God bless all on land and sea and in the air. God bless the USA and all who serve her Cammy P


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Poland II
Location: Alaska
Email: cptkirkjt2002002yahoo
Date: 4/22/2005
Remote Name: 209.112.137.30

Comments

I was in my section's office, just sitting around and I heard my Platoon Sgt's music playing. He was playing "Wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald". I had never heard it before, and it caught my attention so quickly I did a mindfull doubletake at myself. When I later got the song for myself, I listened to it word for word over and over. Then looked up the lyrics, and then the history and then found this website because I felt inspired to look up the crew manifest. It's quite amazing how WILDLY this song has struck my fancy. For no good reason, I don't usually concern myself with things like this, however I feel utterly connected, like a piece of me went down with her. Such a beautiful ship, and wonderful people to guide her. May God have mercy on their brave souls, and my the ship forever live in our hearts.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Roger Reineccius
Location: Barstow, CA
Email: brstwca7msn
Date: 4/15/2005
Remote Name: 71.105.121.41

Comments

My dad was one of the wheelsmen on the Fitzgerald about a year before it sank. He said it was common practice to load it with a slight twist to help stiffen the hull.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Cassy Hary
Location: Davenport Iowa
Email:
Date: 4/11/2005
Remote Name: 67.43.20.131

Comments

As I learned about the Big Fitz in school, I found it interesting to read all the debates of how the great ship was lost. There were alot of neagative comments about the crew and how they built the ship. I find it strange that none of the crew was found. My guess is that we just did not dig deep enouf.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: rory johnson / jackiey johnson
Location: Dorset,England,UK
Email: stumpy.jzoom.
Date: 4/10/2005
Remote Name: 62.253.64.13

Comments

me and my mum are fasinated by the loss of the edmonds fitzgerald my mum told me the story when i was little and it still haunts me one day we'll vist and pay our respects to the 29 brave men Rory johnson (15)


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Pat Loike
Location: Crystal Lake IL
Email:
Date: 4/3/2005
Remote Name: 209.242.42.32

Comments

The ship hit a rock and the ship went over and cracked in two. The ship was so heavy that it sank like a rock


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jacob Vander Ploeg
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario
Email:
Date:
4/2/2005
Remote Name: 24.78.83.14

Comments

I'm thirteen and I'm in grade seven writing an essay on how the Fitz sunk. I believe that the Fitz was taking on water through the hatches. The water was able to flow between the cargo holds because of the fact that they were walled off from each other by mesh. Therefore with the waves coming from behind the boat was lifted up slightly allowing all the water and cargo to move to the bow. As the next wave hit it the boat went down with the bow making hard contact with the lake bottom. Thus the ship cracked in half. To explain how the bow was so far away from the stern the motion of the water may have caused the stern section to flow a little ways away from the bow before coming to rest in the lake bottom somewhat like a leaf when it flutters towards the ground. Gordon Lightfoot's memorial intrigues me as I'm supposing it also does to many others. This theory is somewhat a combination of theories but hey its what i believe.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kit
Location: Waterbury, CT
Email: gypsy_eyes_06704yahoo
Date: 3/31/2005
Remote Name: 159.247.3.230

Comments

For me, it matters little what people speculate are the reasons for the loss of the Edmund Fitzgerals, each time I hear Gordon Lightfoot's tribute song, I think not only of the Edmund Fitzgerald but of all ships, sailors and their families. As beautiful as nature is she can also be cruel. May God Bless & Keep those who make their living on the waters and may the families they often leave behind find peace.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rachel
Location: Glendale, Wisconsin
Email: RrachelBrataol
Date: 3/25/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.134

Comments

It is very sad that it went down but how can you not find 1of29 bodies in the lake that is a big mystery.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: skeeter
Location: lakeside,CA. San Diego
Email: 92040
Date: 3/25/2005
Remote Name: 64.136.49.229

Comments

The song made us all stop and reflect how precious our time here really is...also, what dangerous jobs some endure just to make a living for themselves and their families....what a great song!! 0us


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: casper
Location: Ont. Can.-
Email: casper2sympatico
Date: 3/23/2005
Remote Name: 67.70.206.52

Comments

l`m very impressed with the comments on here about the Fitz.-especially from the kids -reassuring to know there are some thoughtful kids around -l`m in the proccess of biulding a six foot working model of the HMCS `Hiada`-a Canadian world war 11 destroyer --l`m biulding it in memory of the crews who fought in her--my next project is biulding the Fitz--for the same reasons --other than the war -in memory of a great laker and the crew who sailed in her--she didn`t need to have sunk --a shame -but Gord Lightfoot has paid her the top honour in a song --saranora dnear


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jess
Location: connecticut
Email:
Date: 3/23/2005
Remote Name: 209.182.75.181

Comments

im 11 yrs. old. the first time i listened to the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald i thought, this horrible disaster actually happened??? but the more i listened to it the more sympathy i found. the sailors lost their lives in a situation at that time could not be prevented. i think this story is interesting and in a way very depressing. i look forward to learning more about this disaster. my sympathy goes out to the families and friends of those people. to all 29 sailors, your journey started and ended your lives given and gone i hope you know you will be remembered even though you will never be gone. in my heart 4ever rip.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Peggy
Location: Celina,OH
Email: winddreamer13hotmail
Date: 3/22/2005
Remote Name: 66.213.94.22

Comments

it doesn't matter what happened to the ship, what matters is that 29 men lost their lives. anyone who makes their living from the water is brave because they never know when something like this can happen.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Charlie Frederick
Location: Martinsburg, WV
Email: cfm-phadelphia
Date: 3/19/2005
Remote Name: 69.160.65.19

Comments

I continue to remember the Fitz nearly thirty years later. I wrote the second song about the Fitzgerald..."Twenty-NIne More Men" which played in various markets across the country. Gordon Lightfoot is to be honored for his poetic treatment in song. God Bless the Families of the Fitz...Charlie Frederick


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: JK Brandenburg
Location: Appleton, WI
Email: dodge_cumminshotmail
Date: 3/19/2005
Remote Name: 67.48.250.58

Comments

Many Theories, little (hidden) evidence, and no witnesses. My personal feeling is that the Fitz had hull failure in the "hinge" area which started out as a crack and then worsened in the quartering seas to the point where the stern just tore off. The stern would have capsized from the torque of the propeller and tearing steel. Bow section would have nosed down from the loss of bouyancy (from the previous flooding and then sudden loss of stern). Also the Fitz had a history of a "loose keel" and multiple hull structure and keelson repairs, way too many for a "new" ship. 15 years is considered new on the Lakes. She never struck Six Fathom shoal in my opinion due to the direction of drift from the 140 degree line that night--- it would have drifted her AWAY from the shoals instead of towards it. I beleive that there was some construction flaws (welding of keel in particular) in construction that were never fixed and with the sucessive collisions and incomplete repairs that lead to a comprimised ship. Add that to the fact that McSorley often ran full-speed ahead in storm conditions with 7500 SHP, it was just too much for the ship structure on that trip. I dont like blaming the captain for negligence, but he is RESPONSIBLE for the ship's condition and the safety of the crew. There is a possibility that the Fitz sailed with only the minimal number of clamps fastened down on the hatches. Look at the wreck pictures, most of em aren't distorted, leading me to beleive they were never fastened to begin with. They could have lost a cover in the storm with the immense boarding waves towards the end as the ship was settling from the hinge area flooding. FYI: the *hinge* is approx. 1/3 forward of stern, 2/3ds from bow. Its where the ship works the most in a storm. The hinge area is generally never in the middle. Theories will always abound about the Big Fitz. Rest in peace........to the captain and crew of the Fitz, for they have fought their final battle with Gitche Gumee. Godspeed and Fair Winds.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Branodon H.
Location: Winnipeg MB
Email:
Date: 3/18/2005
Remote Name: 206.45.175.219

Comments

Im 10 at the moment and when i was watching the weather chanel Gordon Lightfoots song came on and my dad told me the story of the Edmund Fitzgearld i am very intrested in this ship and all the brave crew abord it God Bless al of you!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: annie
Location: scotland
Email: annmariehilltiscali.co.uk
Date: 3/14/2005
Remote Name: 80.44.121.183

Comments

even in my country this tragedy was in all the newspapers.I remember it vividly even though I was only fourteen.May God bless the crew and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kelly Fleming
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Email: kelkel26msn
Date: 3/6/2005
Remote Name: 68.117.23.186

Comments

My opinion is: Why the heck do we need to exactly know how the Fitz sank anyway? The fact is it did! And theres no changing the past. I would also like to say: Beware the gales of November! They can be quite deadly. Does anyone know the true majesty of the Great Lakes? I mean, so many ships sank in the November storms. They will forever amaze me to no end! Rock on!


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Don robertson
Location: Saint john n.b canada
Email: travisgordon16hotmail.co
Date: 3/4/2005
Remote Name: 69.195.241.157

Comments

Its pretty evident the fitzgerald touched six fathom shoal had they been in a little more depth things no doubt would have been different


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Neil
Location: Wellton,
Email: cornelius.lucheneso.yuma.az
Date: 3/4/2005
Remote Name: 63.160.248.125

Comments

Fair winds and following seas.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jay Heier
Location: Athens, WI.
Email: jaydorisatpeoplepc.com
Date: 3/1/2005
Remote Name: 63.156.24.16

Comments

Absolutely hit rocks and then possibly split in two. Massive water pumps could not keep up, they were taking on water in large amount. If they would of taken normal shipping lane they would be alive today. Someday would like to raise the fitz.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Lekfield
Location: Tomahawk,Wisconsin
Email: randwlekfield@charter.net
Date: 2/28/2005
Remote Name: 68.119.160.74

Comments

I was a Boatswains Mate in the United States Navy. I've read up on such disasters on this one and the Titanic. When I was at sea I can remember some of the storms that we were in and I was scared a few times. I couldn't imagine what was going threw their minds as they knew they were going down. I know it happened so fast but thats got to be the worst feeling. My prayers and thoughts will always be with them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Mike LaFountain
Location: York,Pa
Email: LaFountain1025 aol.com
Date: 2/27/2005
Remote Name: 4.14.74.46

Comments

As I'm sitting here reading the different comments that have been posted over the last couple of years, I am honestly am moved to tears over these simple, but meaningful words. I was born a little over two and half years after the "Fitz" sank and most of my family is from Michigan and I like many others my interested peaked in the grand old ship after I heard the song from Gordon Lightfoot. I have seen many pictures of the great ship and saddened and rememberful of those men who lost their lives for a greater cause. And as a History major in school, I am always learning more about this wonderful ship every time I research the mighty "fitz" God Speed the mighty crew of the "Fitz"


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: R.E. Hancock
Location: Birmingham, Al.
Email: robhancock1647aol.com
Date: 2/26/2005
Remote Name: 205.188.116.134

Comments

As a U.S. Steel employee and being from a long line of U.S. Steel $ T.C.I employees in my family. I feel a close bond with the crew of this mighty vessel. Every time I hear the song, I shed a tear for the crew and the familes of. They will always be in my thoughts. God bless.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: CRL
Location: Wellton,AZ
Email: dpts1014uaol.com
Date: 2/24/2005
Remote Name: 63.160.248.125

Comments

It is sad that this event happened. The only fitting words I can think of to the Capt. and Crew are "Fair Winds and Following Seas." Rest easy and you are not forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Spencer T. Chikahisa
Location:
Email:
Date: 2/23/2005
Remote Name: 68.227.77.197

Comments

I am nine years old and the first time I heard the song I thought it was just any other song,but soon after I learned the song, I did some research on it and learned that it was a real ship.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Brett
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.
Email: hayloch  yahoo.com
Date: 2/20/2005
Remote Name: 68.35.143.97

Comments

My idea is that the two rogue waves that slammed into the back of the Fitzgerald after they passed the Anderson pushed the bow of the Fitzgerald underwater to the point that the cargo(taconite pellets which were already heavier than normal because they absorb water and they are round) was shifted forward and the Fitzgerald went bow first into the lake floor so fast no one could get out or radio for help. When the stern came out of the water it broke off because there was no support underneath it and since the ship was already listing to port it rolled upside down and sank behind the bow section. I also wanted to express my deepest sympathies for the families of those men lost in this tragic accident and that they will not be forgotten.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: georges desjardins
Location: labelle quebec ca
Email: georges01531
Date: 2/20/2005
Remote Name: 216.209.128.184

Comments

I sail with some sailors on the Fitzgerald mike armagost and bookeri felt bad about the tragedy because they are part of my life.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Candis Garringer
Location: Battle Creek,Mich
Email: michnightbeaconhotmail.com
Date: 2/18/2005
Remote Name: 152.131.8.132

Comments

I am so interested still in the Fitz and its sinking. I visited Whitefish Point to better know the area where it happened and get the feel of it. Its a beautiful who holds these men. They are thought of often.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Rick Hickman
Location: born in Chicago area
Email: rh0370@yahoo.com
Date: 2/17/2005
Remote Name: 4.152.240.101

Comments

I lived near Lake Michigan and often saw these great ships. I feel for the families and lost lives that day. I think Gordon Lightfoot has done a wonderful job memorializing it. God Bless them all


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Lon Burrell
Location: Hartselle,AL.
Email: f51923@wmconnect.com
Date: 2/17/2005
Remote Name: 66.20.46.130

Comments

Everything I have ever read, seen or heard concerning the Edmund Fitzgerald leads me to believe that it could be nothing else but the three sisters. Simply broke in two. God rest there souls.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: John McGlocklin
Location: St. Paul, Mn
Email:
Date: 2/16/2005
Remote Name: 66.41.28.100

Comments

my godfather was supposed to be on the fitz the night it went down but was transferred to another ship that day. our family didn't even know until he called us from the other ship. his father was the last man to talk to the captain of the fitz. he was the first mate on the anderson


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Robert Burns
Location: Richmond, Va
Email:
Date: 2/15/2005
Remote Name: 4.136.237.191

Comments

This was a great disater in history of shipping. We will always remember the 29 men who lost their lives in November.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Nicole Weborg
Location: Columbia Station,Oh
Email: ktwbrg atyahoodotcom
Date: 2/8/2005
Remote Name: 156.63.190.132

Comments

I think it's terrible that that boat sank and that many people died. But those people will remain in our hearts forever.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Danielle
Location: Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
Email: panthers_8 athotmaildotcom
Date: 2/7/2005
Remote Name: 70.49.224.115

Comments

I read in my school class that there was a leak in the boat . They have tried to fix it but it has gotten bigger and bigger. Then the captain said " its been good to know you " and he has written a good song about it


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: b.l.
Location:
Email:
Date: 2/7/2005
Remote Name: 168.216.86.144

Comments

histories mysteries had dove and found that the hatch had flown of and waves crashed in .


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: JDWeiss
Location: Sarver Pa
Email: jdweiss atzoominternetdotnet
Date: 2/7/2005
Remote Name: 24.154.17.192

Comments

The only comment I can make is God bless the men and families of The Edmund Fitzgerald. Those 29 brave men went home to be with the Lord that night and they will always be alive in the hearts and minds of all who knew and loved them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: jed
Location: prince rupert B.C.
Email: jed atcityteldotnet
Date: 2/5/2005
Remote Name: 209.145.105.12

Comments

as a boat builder and a sea man there is no doubt in my mind that the Fitzgerald broke in two due to the heavy seas before sinking. my sympathy goes to the crew's family's and to all who have lost loved ones at sea god bless them.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Stacey Needham
Location: Dresden, TN
Email: stneedham atyahoodotcom
Date: 2/2/2005
Remote Name: 70.97.230.173

Comments

I will remember the wreck of the Edmond Fitzgerald for the rest of ship. I was in the second grade and heard about on the evening news. It has haunted me ever since. May God bless the Captain, crew, and their families.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Bryant Backstrom
Location: minneapolis minnesota
Email:
Date: 1/30/2005
Remote Name: 4.158.231.248

Comments

I looked at almost all the investgation reports and i believe the ship never hit the shoal it was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when the waves hit it captain copper agrees with me and the body of one of the saliors found by the bow of the fizts sould be dna tested to see who it is a full size repleca of the ship sould be built as a memoral to the ship


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: ED
Location: LEXINGTON MO.
Email: SAILORMAN10452003 atYAHOOdotcom
Date: 1/29/2005
Remote Name: 205.201.74.136

Comments

AS A FORMER SAILOR ON THE LAKES I BELIEVE THAT THE FITZ BROKE IN HALF AFTER HITTING THE SHOAL.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Colin
Location: London, Ontario
Email: golfman92 athotmaildotcom
Date: 1/28/2005
Remote Name: 69.156.108.71

Comments

I believe the ship broke in two because of the distance in the center, and when the hull scraped along the shoal, so the hull was weakened.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: mike
Location: jackson,mich
Email: mike_johnson904 atyahoodotcom
Date: 1/18/2005
Remote Name: 216.93.96.72

Comments

well no one really knows of course, but my opinion is she bottomed out on caribou island then took a nose dive and smacked the bottom of superior and cracked in two. Here's my question. Her sister ship (arthur m homer) if i remember right,had the same structer and just before fitzgerld went down the company floped million's of dollars in arthur m homer and then when the fitzgerld went down they quickly scraped arthur m homer.S why put millions of dollars into that ship and then scrap it..........makes me wonder


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: benlarson bigfitz historian
Location: silverbaymn
Email: none
Date: 1/15/2005
Remote Name: 64.61.224.242

Comments

my oppinoin the fitz sank is becuse she was in bad shape about two weeks befor she sank she had an all ship inspection it showed a few cracks and bad welds and needed a whole new kell and the reason for that is captain mcsorley he beat the hell out of the fitzgerald and was rare he hauled up for bad whaether it seem s he always wanted to have the ship with the most runs in one season on the lakes and the company that operated her said mcsorley was there best captain and know what he was horible alwasys taking on over sized loads and when the last ofthe cargo was loador unloaded soon as they were done they were out on the the lake and hatches where put on at sea


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Jeff Garringer
Location: Battle Creek,Mich
Email: gcandiscat ataoldotcom
Date: 1/8/2005
Remote Name: 152.131.8.132

Comments

Although sad, I love everything about the Fitz and these Great Lakes. I think every other hatch was left open and the storm was too bizarre to be handled.Bless them all. This will stay in history forever.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Candis Garringer
Location: Battle Creek,Mich
Email: michnightbeacon athotmaildotcom
Date: 1/8/2005
Remote Name: 152.131.8.132

Comments

I only wanted to comment on Whitefish Point's memorial for this wreck. the bell is on display there. As I studied it all the crew haunted me in the room. Its a wonderful display and a beautiful spot at Whitefish point.Mich.


Subject: The Loss of the Edmund Fitzgerald
From: Kevin Abrehart
Location: Oscoda, Michigan
Email: kja2069 at auscoda.com
Date: 1/4/2005
Remote Name: 65.146.57.239

Comments

I honestly believe she broke in two simply because of the great distance between the two pieces as they rest on the bottom of the lake if she broke in two while hitting bottom how would the halves end up over 100 feet apart. If she were designed like an ocean freighter she would of survived the 30 foot waves, but as a lake freighter she was weak in the middle for those high seas...GOD BLESS THE CREW AND THEIR FAMILIES


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